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Yeah, glad I'm not alone. It's a lame complaint, but I think I'll just play the game in shorter bursts from here on. Maybe do one "level / area" per sitting. Would really like to see FOV sliders become a standard on consoles too.

So far the combat and bosses have been kind of boring, in that it leans more heavily into the survival aspect than not. I'm sure this is what most people wanted, but even RE1 for me still feels like an action game for the most part. I guess I would have liked a *little" more combat and bullets here, but it's certainly no Outlast or hide and seek kind of thing for the most part. In Silent Hill's case it's usually pretty easy to maneuver around enemies and I like going full melee in those since guns are so scarce. But yeah, there's just something about RE7 here that makes me wish I could shoot stuff more... but again I guess that's not what they or most wanted. It's more claustrophobic and you're going to die a lot. There's also a bit too much scripted and on rails moments, always kind of pulls me out of the immersion in games.

Sorry to sound a little underwhelmed. It seems pretty good, but probably fits alongside the lesser entries for me. I'll see how the second half holds up.

And I did just replay Condemned several weeks ago, so it's been kind of interesting to compare it to that in my mind in ways.
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Xeo: I find that you're one of the harsher critics of games here. I don't mean that in a negative way at all. Just commenting that I tend to notice that you seem to dislike more games than you like. Or maybe you don't spend as much time commenting on the ones you do like?

At any rate, I'm actually surprised on this one. I know you're a big fan of the series and it seems like RE7 is sort of this year's Doom4 in the sense that "everyone" seems to be pleasantly surprised by it.
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Really? I guess it's easier to be critical than praise something sometimes. And when I notice some discussions don't get much attention (like me talking about Doom megawads in some last few posts) then I don't find there's much else to add to it. You can say that, yet I'm also the guy that loves RE5 and likes RE6. It just might be how divisive I can be on RE itself, but I've seen people trash those here harder than I am on Code Veronica or Revelations 1 at times.

A lot of people are indeed surprised by it, but media wise all I constantly see and hear is like, "RE only had a few good entries and the rest suck, RE7 is the best one in forever" and they just gloss over the rest which bugs me a bit.

RE7 is feeling like "good" tier to me alongside RE6 and Revelations 2. Like a 7/10. I'm enjoying it, it's just not blowing me away or anything. My current top favorites are RE1/Remake, RE2, RE4, and RE5, and I don't see RE7 being that level.

Also now that I'm playing it I can totally agree with you guys on the Alien Isolation comparison... but I don't see RE7 being quite that good. Alien Isolation blew my face off.

So far I beat 9 games this year and 67 last year and could praise probably all of them. Maybe it's both you only noticing some of my nastier posts or well I think I probably am really cranky lately with some personal shit going on with my roommate and moving soon. March 24th can't come soon enough.

Also... maybe it's the walk/run speed. Slow ass walking speed in FPS's can irk me a lot. :P
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Xeogred wrote:You can say that, yet I'm also the guy that loves RE5 and likes RE6. It just might be how divisive I can be on RE itself, but I've seen people trash those here harder than I am on Code Veronica or Revelations 1 at times.
That's a fair point. And BTW, I still haven't played 6 but your posts about it have made me want to push it up on my get-to-it-soon list.
RE7 is feeling like "good" tier to me alongside RE6 and Revelations 2. Like a 7/10.
That's also fair. And I really enjoyed Revelations 2 as well.
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Treasure needs to make a RE-licensed 8-way or twin stick shooter called Radiant Evilgun. I leave it to your imagination to determine the exact mechanical details, but it probably behaves a little like Smash TV with zombies.
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Seems I'm not alone with this one giving players a headache:
http://www.polygon.com/2017/1/25/143884 ... n-sickness

In playing more today, I think it's a string of combinations with the limited FOV on consoles, shaky camera stuff, no HUD, and more often than not you are in extremely dark areas with only an oval/circle of light from a flashlight. So the corners are always blacked out, so... you've got this ultra claustrophobic FOV and really have to constantly look around rooms to scourer all items you can find. It's like constantly looking down a tube or binoculars or something, like a fish bowl effect. I turned movement acceleration off and that helps. Very strange, like I've been saying I'm picky about FOV's... but never because of a more extreme case like this. Rarely does an FPS bug me.

That said I think I'm near the end, so I'm going to try and chip away at it today while taking some short breaks in between.

For a plus, I really like the videotape thing putting you in that perspective a lot. Very cool. Also I was complaining about wanting to kill things more earlier, well I guess I forgot how much ammo I hoarded away in the chests. :lol:

Third boss was awesome. Reminded me of a certain fight in RE4.
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I'm playing on PC so I've not noticed the FOV stuff you're talking about.

The VHS stuff is great.
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I watched a playthrough of the game done by former Game Trailers employee, Michael Huber. This was his third playthrough so he did it with relative ease and showed off a lot of fun tidbits of information. Most importantly, it was not filled with screaming youtube personas.

I lover what the game had to offer and reaffirmed that I will never play this game ever... but I can still thoroughly enjoy it!

I thought it had a great mix of Japanese and American horror and game design sensibilities. For those that didn't enjoy the game, I am very curious to know why.

As for the topic of criticism vs. enthusiasm, I can only say this. It is easier to criticize a game than it is to laud it. Flaws can be glaring and we sometimes focus on those flaws instead of asking ourselves, "Are we having fun?"

I like to play a game with no expectations, no critical eye and just experience it naturally. As I am playing.. about half way throughif I am either enjoying it or not, I think about what elements of it are contributing to my feelings. Almost always, I find that it isn't something wrong with the game, but wrong with how I play and digest games. It just doesn't click for a variety of reasons and I move on.
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If it says anything, I rarely drop games, but I'm not afraid too either. So RE7 isn't bad. I just have some nitpicks, more on the technical optimization side of things. That and now that I'm in the final stretch, I just didn't find the characters/plot to be all that interesting here. I think RE is at its best with isolated locations and stories, which is exactly what this is... but with almost zero connections to the rest of the franchise and Ethan being a bit of a shell, it hasn't been all that interesting. It feels more exploitative on the horror and gore, rather than mysterious like the others to me. There's basically absolutely no traces of the hilariously goofy Umbrella sci-fi touches that the series usually relishes in and I absolutely love, so that's a bit of a bummer too. It's not unexpected at all, but RE7 is indeed a very very strong offshoot doing its own thing.
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Xeogred wrote:If it says anything, I rarely drop games, but I'm not afraid too either. So RE7 isn't bad. I just have some nitpicks, more on the technical optimization side of things. That and now that I'm in the final stretch, I just didn't find the characters/plot to be all that interesting here. I think RE is at its best with isolated locations and stories, which is exactly what this is... but with almost zero connections to the rest of the franchise and Ethan being a bit of a shell, it hasn't been all that interesting. There's basically absolutely no traces of the hilariously goofy Umbrella sci-fi touches that the series usually relishes in and I absolutely love, so that's a bit of a bummer too. It's not unexpected at all, but RE7 is indeed a very very strong offshoot doing its own thing.
OH i don't think you were crapping on the game. Having an issue with some of the field of view and it's use of perspective isn't a crazy complaint, nor a big a one. I am curious to hear from you once it is finished. I would love to hear your thoughts on the ending.
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