Switch Discussion Thread

[Xeogred]

IF they were smart they would port a version of this to switch. Honestly I'm more excited for this and DQVIII on the 3DS than anything releasing in the near future exclusively for the switch.

I think they should port 95% of the Wii U / 3DS library to the Switch. Make it the ultimate system.

[Tanooki]

Not so sure the 3DS library since the 3DS isn't suffering and odds are in most cases if people cared enough already they have the stuff.

Now the WiiU, a lot who bought them originally got burned and quite a few sold off systems like myself after a year or two into its life. People would have missed out on quite a few of the 1st party/2nd party offerings the system got. I got out a Mario Kart hit, so I skipped it, and no Xenoblade, Starfox or any of the rest. I'd welcome those conversions and being just that, conversions looking at MK8 it'll come at a little bit of a lower price too. Starfox I'd definitely put at the top of my list.

[ZeroAX]

I mean, really though, why would 2K18 launch only 2 months through 2017 considering that the system launches in the VERY beginning of March?

Yeah, hence why I asked if it was a re-skinned version of 2K17 with a few minor updates/tweaks.

It turns out though that it's just the media are idiots. I looked up the stories and read them. They even quoted the tweet that said it's coming out September. They just misinterpreted the tweet and ran a story saying it's coming out at launch and the rest of the media followed like sheep. Bloody mainstream media. It's quite entertaining to see it's the mainstream media and politicians banging on about "fake news", directing their anger at independent blogs etc... but I digress. That's another topic of conversation.

Don't blame the media, the people are just at fault. Stupid people were willing to care/pay more for instant news instead of verified news. And this is a major problem with gaming journalism really. There's no value in "old" but well put news and editorials. Most websites have really been following a hits based business model for a bit less than a decade now.

They need the 3ds money pretty badly right now, but they risk failing to effectively market the Switch and thus sacrificing future profits and market health in favor of short-term gains. It doesn't help that all those motion control geegaws and whatnot have made the price potentially challenging for families that may want more than one portable device.

I don't know how I feel about this ot be honest. Because on the one hand as a 3DS owner I'm really happy that they keep supporting it quite well (Pokemon, Fire Emblem, Kirby, Phoenix Wright and in general a shit ton of great games released in the console's 5th year) but I feel that they are shooting themselves in the foot by not putting all resources to make the first year of the Switch a success.

[Reprise]

Don't blame the media.

What, don't blame the media for running a story with a headline that states that there will be another launch game for the Switch and runs the following story, when it's factually not true in the slightest?

The journalists clearly can't even read. Read the bit I highlighted in bold that contradicts the story they drummed up from that very tweet. I mean, what the hell?

I mean, granted, yes, I am an idiot for seeing the headlines and a few different websites sharing the story and not looking any further into it, but come on. We currently have a huge story about "fake news" regarding the lack of accountability for independent online media websites and how some misinterpret or fabricate stories, yet the mainstream media does it all the time and no one gives a shit. They're supposed to publish retractions or apologies, but they do it in tiny sections of their newspapers or websites, well hidden on about page 28 or something.

Nintendo Switch games list has just expanded, as a new launch title has been announced by Nintendo.

Previously without a release date, NBA 2K18 has been confirmed for the Nintendo Switch's March 3 launch.

"NBA 2K18 - Nintendo Switch lands in the UK on March 3rd! We're excited to be bringing NBA 2K18 to Nintendo's latest console this September!" reads a 2K tweet.

It's possible third-party developers will have some surprises in store for launch, and fans can also expect a selection of Virtual Console releases.

The Nintendo Switch launch games lineup in full:

1-2-Switch - March 3
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild - March 3
Skylanders Imaginators - March 3
Just Dance 2017 - March 3
Super Bomberman R (March 3)
NBA 2K18 (March 3)

[Tanooki]

I don't know how I feel about this ot be honest. Because on the one hand as a 3DS owner I'm really happy that they keep supporting it quite well (Pokemon, Fire Emblem, Kirby, Phoenix Wright and in general a shit ton of great games released in the console's 5th year) but I feel that they are shooting themselves in the foot by not putting all resources to make the first year of the Switch a success.

I read that but didn't comment, but with you throwing that in there I will. I think it's just Nintendo blowing smoke. I give the 3DS 2 years tops, and that's not to say good years at all, but more like the piddling dying breaths both the DS and the GBA had on the back end. Filler releases, licensed garbage, and imported over stuff brought up years later in smaller amounts(like GBA's last Samurai Deeper Kyo BestBuy sold which was a 3-4yo game at the time.) They got rid of their two development and support businesses when they melded everything into one unit to R&D and push out the Switch. They took their resources and put it all there other than cranking out planned and started projects big and small all the while thinking of other fillers as well (so you get a range of the copy/paste Mario Maker or the Fire Emblem blowout.)

They maybe squealing it's a console and a handheld you can take with you, but they are modeling the structure of this looking at the games involved so far and the licensees making games more along their handheld business from appearances of things. They're stumbling on it though, no surprise, since they've never gone single system since the NES days pre-late 1989.

The 3DS as it appears now doesn't have much popping up, definitely not from their AAA stuff either outside of the Yoshi WiiU conversion and Fire Emblem. Pikmin may or may not happen, an RPG, another shovelware Mario multi-sports package, and out just now the port/update of Dragon Quest 8. That's it. 3rd parties aren't showing anything, kind of on life support by the looks of things.

[noiseredux]

where's isiolia? I think he'll be able to walk me through this here...

So if I recall there is a size-cap on games sold through Google Play or iTunes right? What I'm thinking about is that - and this is just kind of all over the place here - but I find it interesting that at the same time that Nintendo has announced their own tablet, they're still dipping their toes into publishing mobile games on iOS and Android.

I mean, the thing is that they couldn't just go put Breath Of Wild up on Play/iTunes, cuz it's friggin' huge right?

BUT...

Could they hypothetically make their own mobile store? Like if somebody buys an Android game for their KINDLE through Amazon's own app store... then I'm assuming Amazon makes the rules. Actually, that has to be true if I'm thinking about Nvidia's "Shield Hub" store. I feel like Doom 3 or No Man's Sky or whatever... these are huge games.

What I'm saying is, if Nintendo made an Android app called, whatever, "The Switch Store" and wanted to sell Zelda and Mario Kart full Switch games ported to Android for $40, $50 or whatever.... I would pay close attention. If they started throwing up VC titles as well, I'm sure I'd spend $300 on Nintendo 'apps' much sooner than I'd plunk down $300 for their proprietary tablet.

/ramble

[isiolia]

I think the size requirements could be side-stepped that way. The Cortex store that Razer has (they bought Ouya as well) states a 1.25GB APK size recommended max (can get permission for larger) and doesn't set a limit for data files. 'course, given that their current device has 16GB of storage and no expansion, the sky isn't exactly the limit there.

Actually having storage for large games would likely be an issue on a lot of devices. The Switch OS also likely provides for better access to the hardware in a low overhead environment. Higher end or upcoming hardware may work fine anyway, especially considering that the Switch is basically using hardware that's a couple years old already, but the potential market might be smaller than you'd think.


Also figure that Nintendo's actual iOS/Android games are largely not the same thing. Even the upcoming Fire Emblem game looks basically like a gacha game a la Final Fantasy Record Keeper, though that one is apparently fairly generous. They aren't really porting their games to those. They're more taking lucrative game models and skinning them with their IPs.

[CRTGAMER]

For those of you who keep pushing for Nintendo to go software developer only, think about what you are asking. More competition is better than less, even if they are a third pillar. By taking Nintendo out of hardware, who is going to be pushing development forward? Yes yes, Kingmohd, you said Nintendo should have done this eight years ago, back when the Wii and the DS were dominating the sales charts and it was a ridiculous concept (In Japan Mario Kart DS was in the top 25 weekly sales for close to a decade). Nintendo is a wildcard in an industry that desperately needs something to change up the monotony. Since we all like to make predictions, mainline consoles have two, maybe three, more generations until PCs or Smart devices make them irrelevant.

The Switch is a great step forward into bringing console experiences portable. My job has me travel alot, more than it use to. I spend a lot of time in cities outlying from my own. Sometimes in hotels, some times driving back and forth. The Wiiu has been awesome for me since all I need is an outlet. The Switch will be even better. Sure my telephone can emulate Gamecube games, and I have an 8bitdo controller for it, but it is not the same. I do not get excited like this for every console, the last one that I was this excited for was the Gamecube.

No Backwards Compatibility to WiiU or 3DS Titles!
Your post a few pages back got me thinking about of the Nintendo Switch upcoming market share for portable gaming. Nintendo attempting a console and bridge the gap for gaming on the go. Will anything even come close to competing with the Cell phone? For the travel setting up in hotels, I also bring a small game console; my Wii with a few games and Netflix. However, the portable gaming aspect (the little I do play) will always revert to the cell phone since always in my pocket. Nintendo is smart putting out titles on the Android for the readily available cell phone play, unclear if the Switch will make that portable gaming dent.

Neat how the controllers can be swapped into the Portable Tablet, this gives it an immediate advantage over the cell phone.

[noiseredux]

Also figure that Nintendo's actual iOS/Android games are largely not the same thing. Even the upcoming Fire Emblem game looks basically like a gacha game a la Final Fantasy Record Keeper, though that one is apparently fairly generous. They aren't really porting their games to those. They're more taking lucrative game models and skinning them with their IPs.

yep. I agree. But it'd be nice if that's their way of testing waters. Y'know?

Gawd, even if they'd pull a Square Enix and start putting old games up for sale I'd commend them.

[bmoc]

Super Bomberman 1-3 and Mega Bomberman were $60 games. Bomberman DS was $30. So $60 is not unheard of for a Bomberman game. Though Bomberman Blast on the Wii was $20.

Either way I will pay it. I have gotten more than enough fun out of that series that a new version is worthwhile. And since it is 8 player on the go it may replace both Bomberman DS and Saturn Bomberman.

Destructoid is reporting that it will be $50. So if $40 if you have Prime or GCU.