World is Falling Apart Thread (Locked forever)

[CRTGAMER]

I just wonder how badly the independent ethics cut may come to bite them later. This is reminding me of when Harry Reid had the filibuster rules changed and then the Republicans successfully took Congress and used the new rules against the Democrats.

So true, the Democrats really screwed up on the majority rule and now will eat it. Updated my previous post with Trump's response.

As to the Health Care changes, competition always better then a Monopoly. Trump's approach is a NATIONWIDE Choice of insurance vs state private insurance monopolies of the past. The Government approach would have worked if price limits were in place. Medical jacked up the prices way over the inflation norm due to mandated government health care. Hopefully the reassessment would look into the high costs such as the short shelf life (on purpose?) EpiPen taking advantage of the system. The real fix to Health Care is prosecuting so many pharmaceutical companies taking advantage of the sick.

Oh and get rid of all the medicines (watch TV Ads) that have side affects causing worst issues; how can they even be allowed!? I thought depression medicine was bad affecting ones train of thought, now there is medicine for old people to stop uncontroled bursts of laughter! Medication changing who we are inside?

[Blu]

I just wonder how badly the independent ethics cut may come to bite them later. This is reminding me of when Harry Reid had the filibuster rules changed and then the Republicans successfully took Congress and used the new rules against the Democrats.

So true, the Democrats really screwed up on the majority rule and now will eat it. Updated my previous post with Trump's response.

As to the Health Care changes, competition always better then a Monopoly. Trump's approach is a NATIONWIDE Choice of insurance vs state private insurance monopolies of the past. The Government approach would have worked if price limits were in place. Medical jacked up the prices due to mandated health care. Hopefully the reassessment would look into the high costs such as the short shelf life (on purpose?) EpiPen taking advantage of the system. The real fix to Health Care is prosecuting so many pharmaceutical companies taking advantage of the sick.

It is a naive view to think competition between health insurance companies really exist. The competition is negligible. Everyone agrees to a price ceiling. In practice, it looks like monopoly. Pharmaceutical gouging is a issue within the larger problem.

There's also a pretty prevalent issue of larger and newer hospitals passing off their mortages of into the cost of procedures. A procedure like getting blood drawn will be ballooned in cost at a larger hospital, versus a smaller clinic. There's a great planet money on that one.

[MrPopo]

Oh and get rid of all the medicines (watch TV Ads) that have side affects causing worst issues; how can they even be allowed!? I thought depression medicine was bad affecting ones train of thought, now there is medicine for old people to stop uncontroled bursts of laughter! Medication changing who we are inside?

Ok, so you clearly don't understand how medical disclaimers work. If, during the test study, ANYTHING outside of the expected occurs then it gets listed as a possible side effect. Every single piece of medication has potential side effects. Read the warning label on your over the counter medication sometime. This is just another instance of your gut reaction without any level of getting yourself informed and it's endemic of the level of public knowledge and interaction. This is the same kind of shit that lead to that whole "vaccines cause autism!" bullshit from years ago.

[Blu]

It's no use Popo, the Kool-aid has gotten to the man. He's drank too much of it.

[TSTR]

You want some Marketplace insurance in North Carolina? Look at all the wonderful choices you get:

BCBS of NC

Something ain't right here, and I say that as a broke motherfucker who is gaming the system himself. Working in an insurance office for a while has shown me some shit.

[marurun]

You want some Marketplace insurance in North Carolina? Look at all the wonderful choices you get:

BCBS of NC

Something ain't right here, and I say that as a broke motherfucker who is gaming the system himself. Working in an insurance office for a while has shown me some shit.

Oh yeah. Believe me, I know. The ACA was very effective at expanding coverage, but when it comes to medical costs the ACA was a small bandage on a gaping wound. It's better than nothing (and anything proposed from the other side of the political aisle), but it doesn't really address any of the root problems of health care costs in America. It only puts a few mild restraints on cost growth.

This is one of those times when I really thing the right has it wrong on health care. We need socialized, single-payer medicine. For-profit corporations have no business being in something as vital to society as health care. "Share-holder value" is what has driven these cost increases. And even non-profit hospitals have gone crazy. Look at my hometown's Cleveland Clinic. They spend a lot on research, but they also generate revenue like a for-profit on steroids. Their top execs are paid handsomely and they have expanded into places like UAE. They are one of those medical institutions that craves the cutting edge and the high-end, and lots of their low-end care gets shafted because of it.

But they are by far not the only one. We have the best, most cutting edge care in the world here in the US, but it's only for those who can afford it. Meanwhile our basic level of care has plummeted, and mundane illnesses can bankrupt people left and right. This is another side of that whole 1% vs the 99% income inequality issue. The select, privileged few in the US have the best the world can offer, and the rest of us get the leftovers at jacked-up prices. This is where almost every other 1st world nation has us beat. They focus on the kind of care that everyone needs, and they leave that select, privileged few to manage their high-end care on their own.

[TSTR]

For-profit corporations have no business being in something as vital to society as health care.

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[Ack]

I disagree, though I think there can be a happy medium where both public and privatized options are available.

That said, I don't believe for-profit corporations should be involved in something as vital to society as incarceration and imprisonment.

[TSTR]

That said, I don't believe for-profit corporations should be involved in something as vital to society as incarceration and imprisonment.

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[Sarge]

The amount of work it takes to be good in a field like medicine, in my mind, demands compensation. Certainly, I have no issues with government helping those that can't receive adequate care, but I definitely have no issues with profit being involved.