Conversations on the Xbox 360 and its library.

[Exhuminator]

Am I the only one that thinks about this too much?

Nah. For me, my serious gaming time is one of solitude and escape from real life, and that includes escape from real life people. I don't care for online gaming with other actual humans for a variety of reasons. One of the biggest, is that they will constantly break the fourth wall (of immersion). Which is why I also have Achievement and Trophy notifications disabled on my 360 and PS3. Those little "good job have a gold star" popups do nothing but break my immersion and I don't care for them.

[Xeogred]

At least someone read it, lol.

Trophies have gotten a lot better in terms of timing nowadays. Those still don't bother me, but at the same time I though the achievement chime was annoying in comparison. Pretty silly, but so I can easily see how both might annoy anyone and it's good they have the option to turn them off now.

I'll definitely have to hook it up again someday and wipe out some of my friends list, same with Steam. Guess this thread might motivate me to at least type up a list and break up my 360 collection a bit.

[noiseredux]

Xeo I love your long thoughtful posts. Even if I don't agree with points they are well articulated.

[Xeogred]

Thanks, expect a big one for Quake 1-2 sometime soon.
(gotta compete with those Elkin/Exhum essays)

I saw Metal Jesus put up a new big video on the 360, maybe it's destiny to renew my love for the console? I'm going to go watch that right now.

[Exhuminator]

Xeo I love your long thoughtful post

I really enjoyed it also. Xeo's post here was exactly the kind of retrospective thought provoking reply I was hoping for in this thread.

[ElkinFencer10]

Xeo I love your long thoughtful post

I really enjoyed it also. Xeo's post here was exactly the kind of retrospective thought provoking reply I was hoping for in this thread.

Yeah, I read that post yesterday, but it was such a well thought out one, I wanted to take some time to think about what he said before I responded to it. Great post, man.

I totally agree with you about the love/hate relationship with the 360, but for me, it's more bullshit reasons than yours. What yall gotta remember is that that generation and my high school years started at the same time; the Xbox 360 came out my 8th grade year, the PS3 and Wii my freshman year. As I'm sure everyone is aware, middle schoolers and high school freshmen are fucking stupid. While today I'm a firm believer in mutliplatform play, back then, I was a hardcore Nintendo fanboy. I hated Playstation for how badly the PS2 beat out the Gamecube, and I hated Microsoft for how badly the Xbox 360 was beating out the Wii (among actual gamers, not pure hardware sales). I hated both the 360 and PS3 for getting multiplats that the Wii either got shit versions of or no versions at all. Rationally, I understood why those things happened (though it did and still does baffle me why so many gamers are so resistant to the Wii's and Wii U's gameplay-innovation-over-hardware-specs approach), but at 14 years old, you don't really rely on rationality as opposed to short fuze emotions, especially when you're as passionate about gaming as I've always been.

Today, I love my 360 and probably have more games for it than I do my PS3 (given the higher supply and lower current demand for 360 games vs PS3 games in the US leading to low prices), but I held such vitriol for the system during such formative years that I'll probably always have just a hint of that bad aftertaste, so to speak, in my mouth for the system.

I can't be sure (given the legitimate bullshit at its official unveiling and the relative lack of exclusives or good performance on multiplats), but I suspect that my subconscious prejudice regarding the 360 has probably colored my view of the Xbox One. I always preferred the PS3 over the 360 (at the time because I saw it as a kindred spirit to the Wii in its market failure against the 360), and when I finally got both consoles in college, I preferred the PS3's exclusives and tended to prefer multiplats on Playstation because of the controller (even for FPS games, I prefer the Playstation 3's controller), and I absolutely adore my Playstation 4, but my Xbox One rarely does more than let me control what TV channel I watch with voice commands. I buy all of my multiplats on Playstation 4 since they almost always run better, I VASTLY prefer the Playstation 4 controller in every way, I have more friends on Playstation 4 and it was WAY more and WAY better exclusives, so even if I look down on the Xbox One for the same bullshit reasons I look down on the Xbox 360, that one's at least got legitimate reasons that coincide with it, but I suspect that psychological prejudice does still play a role.

I'll end my counter-essay by saying that I agree with you that the "longest generation" thing was not, in my opinion, a good thing. A lot of 7th gen aspects, I think, were better on the drawing board than in practice. Generation length is one, making console gaming both less exciting for me as well as putting it on the road to extinction with either abandonment for PC for frequent "half-steps" like with smart phones. Internet connectivity is another one; having online play on consoles is fantastic, but it's crippled what used to make gaming great - immersive single player experiences and engaging local multiplayer experiences. The best multiplayer games these days, for the most part, require you either play at your own houses or sit next to each other with two TVs and two consoles and draw bandwidth from the same network just for the sake of being together. Gaming used to be a truly social thing, IMO; now it's more psuedo-social than anything else. Not that I haven't LOVED playing The Division with Fragems or playing Doom with wip3outguy7 - opportunities I wouldn't have been afforded without console online multiplayer - but it feels like online play is, in large part, what cost gaming its soul.

Maybe I'm just too emotionally invested in the medium, and maybe I'm just turning into a crotchety old man with regards to the inevitable changes in the medium, but I can't help but see the Xbox 360 as the real launching point for the changes that turned the medium into something I feel like it shouldn't become. There we go. I'll shut up now and let someone else speak.

/endsermon

[Ack]

What's your all time favorite 360 game and why?

Deadly Premonition. I respect it for being a throwback in terms of design to the survival horror I appreciated playing as well as pulling inspiration from its source.

What's the best open world game on the 360?

Deadly Premonition

What's the best driving/racing game on the 360?

...Deadly Premonition

What was your favorite non-shmup shooting game (be it third person / first person / cover)?

Deadly Premonition!

What's the goriest FPS on 360?

...does Condemned count?

What 360 game do you think had the very best graphics?

...Deadly Premonition...

What?

What popular 360 game do you think was just pure crap?

I don't know.

The truth is, I just didn't spend much time focusing on the 360 outside of a handful of games, namely because the consoles I had kept breaking. My first, the drive went out. My second, it RRODed. My third was a Frankenstein of the first two because I pulled out the drive from the RRODed one and replaced it in the first...and then it RRODed. My fourth I abandoned when I got out of Auburn. I just have no desire to ever own one again.

And yes, Deadly Premonition was the best game on the console. I'm one of those people.

I'm also debating moving this thread to the Sony/Microsoft subforum.

[Exhuminator]

I put a bunch of time into Deadly Premonition, and I don't agree with you about its quality. But I'm glad there's a 360 game you truly enjoyed.

I'm also debating moving this thread to the Sony/Microsoft subforum.

I think the subforums such as that one are redundant and unnecessary, hence I put this thread into General Gaming. But you are a mod so do as you wish chief.

[Ack]

I'm also debating moving this thread to the Sony/Microsoft subforum.

I think the subforums such as that one are redundant and unnecessary, hence I put this thread into General Gaming. But you are a mod so do as you wish chief.

Moving the thread was requested by a couple of members, and the subforums are intended to help prevent clutter and allow folks to focus on specific things they like.

Also I realize I'm weird for getting as much of a kick out of Deadly Premonition as I do. Can't help it, just love it.

[ElkinFencer10]

Also I realize I'm weird for getting as much of a kick out of Deadly Premonition as I do. Can't help it, just love it.

Don't feel bad; Devil's Third is one of my favorite games on Wii U.