What's your personal pet peeve in gaming?

[Tanooki]

Grinding wasn't much of an issue in the first Bravely either, I guess I should have been clearer with that one on the WHY. The first one I quit playing it later in the game going towards the Fire temple. There was this optional? boss fight with a charmer and I never found a way through it, read on line you were from that point forward in the game forced to use specific classes at specific levels for certain particular skills to win boss fights or you were fubar. I stopped playing the game, I find shit like that entirely painful and annoying where you lose the right of choice in how to fight a battle. Square found it cute to start that crap around FF10 and have done it in most their games ever since as a shitty plot (my conspiracy theory) to sell $30 strategy guides.

I'm honestly not entirely certain why I even own the game anymore. I sold off the LE kit it came in last year to someone who would appreciate it which I never did, sat in a dark storage area never opened but once (only the book) carefully to see the art and the rest remained sealed/untouched. I can't stand RPGs that won't let you win using your own tactics or at worse attrition/brute force as it just dumbs down to a stupid simon says like mentality. I read that Bravely sequel did the same junk after it came out, sucked the motivation out of me almost entirely. I wouldn't pass it on a shelf for under $20 just to play until it got stupid like that but full retail, no.

[Sarge]

But class experimentation is part of the point of the Bravely games! You're supposed to dig into the mechanics and try to break it. I know I did. There's some ridiculously overpowered combinations of moves, and you can master classes so quickly that it makes picking up nearly all the classes an absolute cinch. I actually kinda wish I hadn't broken it quite as badly as I did, because most of the bosses were cakewalks from that point on.

Always hated it when friends complain that i use the same moves in fighting games. Personally if its in the game its fair play.

If you're using them and winning, you just need to tell them to "get gud scrub". If you're using repetitive tactics and they can't beat that, then that's a reflection on their skill, not yours.

[MrPopo]

Sarge gets it. Bravely Default is the successor to FF5 with all of its brokenness if you're willing to dive into the mechanics. If you want to talk being forced to use jobs at certain points we can talk FF3. That game was all about being forced to change to particular jobs for particular bosses/dungeons or you were screwed.

[Tanooki]

Well if that's the true and only real point to Bravely Default then it's a game I must sell, strongly desire to no less.

That is the essence of time wasting to me, worse than dragon quest because at least you can have a more flowing progression, in FF5 to a point and most definitely BD1 (and2?) you have to stall a LONG time in places to repeatedly rank up good and crap classes on the same person to get primed for battle. That's awful. I had ranked up a primary and a secondary (on a couple tertiary) class and that was it, then I was fubar.

[Sarge]

You do have to grind, but you really don't have to that much in BD. There's a forest that you can use where the game basically plays itself if you set things up right for around thirty minutes, maybe an hour, and absolutely fly through the classes. It's such a compressed curve that even normal RPGs feel slow compared to how quickly you can do so in BD. Jack up that battle speed and watch the levels shoot up!

[Tanooki]

I believe you, but after not touching it for I'm guessing 2 years now, I don't feel the need to go back as I recently started Chrono Trigger DS and have other things to pick away at. It demotivated me badly enough to stop, doubt I'd even go half the distance this time. So if anyone is interested, I can take pics if they want it or I'll chuck it on ebay whenever I'm motivated to do so.

[Sarge]

Hey, I understand that. I've dropped RPGs with 30+ hours of investment in them... and Chrono Trigger is the better game, anyway.

[Tanooki]

Psst...not a big secret, I've never once finished it and I've had the cartridge on SNES since the dying days of the system off and on (vastly mostly on.) Farthest I ever went was in that era with the floating rocks/chains looking boss and that was on SNES. I really should pick the game back up on DS, went on a vacation and had put like 3 hours on it before hand if that, got mostly through that first visit to the far wrecked future and then to the gate of time and got magic.

[digimonfreak]

Crafting, hate it!

[marurun]

I hate the total lack of ecologies in RPGs, FF6 and FF7 are the worst examples in recent memory. You're fighting these weird monsters and creations that seem to be barely connected to the environments, or are simply weird nonsense. Why am I fighting a GreaseMonk? Why is it here in this environment? How does this even make sense? I prefer a little Gygaxian naturalism.