What was the last movie you've seen?

[MrPopo]

Even if Fox were to give the license back to Marvel I don't see them adding the X-Men to the MCU. The Inhumans are using the same themes as the mutants in the X-Men world, so having a second set would just be redundant. And then there's the minor issue of the twins now having a completely different backstory that could still be welded into a universe where Magneto exists but it would be awkward and we'd all notice.

[Cronozilla]

Even if Fox were to give the license back to Marvel I don't see them adding the X-Men to the MCU. The Inhumans are using the same themes as the mutants in the X-Men world, so having a second set would just be redundant. And then there's the minor issue of the twins now having a completely different backstory that could still be welded into a universe where Magneto exists but it would be awkward and we'd all notice.

So, they actually changed Pietro and Wanda's characters in the comics to suit how they changed them in Age of Ultron, they are no longer mutants and they aren't inhuman either. (Hooray for turning a creative medium into an advertising branch?) The X-Men still function in this world. (Not that I think it's a great thing)

All the Inhuman replacement for mutants stuff that's in Agents of Shield appears to be not what the MCU film people want. (Also, that's what Season 3 was about ... but is it even going to matter going forward?)

It's very apparent that the MCU film people don't want to touch Inhumans and this is something being pushed by the TV people. They've gone out of their way to remove the movie from the production line after announcing Ant-Man and the Wasp, and even created different origins for their "enhanced" people. So, I wouldn't be too sure about all the foreseen overlap there.

However, I'm not sure I'd want to see them immediately make X-movies anyway. It might be nice for it to go quiet for a little while.

[marurun]

That and very few of the Inhumans characters in the Marvel comics universe have really hooked much of an audience. Ms. Marvel is probably the most popular (for good reason), and while Captain Marvel has been called an Inhuman, that's actually incorrect in some ways. Her power is Kree-derived, but not at the inherited DNA level. And it's a little weak-sauce to see the whole mutant discrimination thing recycled with the Inhumans on Shield.

I would be much more interested in seeing Fox finally give up on the Fantastic 4 and send that back to Marvel/Disney. I would have high hopes for a Disney Fantastic 4, and that would re-introduce some great villains (which the current MCU has had major issues with) such as Dr. Doom and Galactus. I think the origins of the Fantastic 4 fits better with the MCU anyway.

[Cronozilla]

That and very few of the Inhumans characters in the Marvel comics universe have really hooked much of an audience. Ms. Marvel is probably the most popular (for good reason), and while Captain Marvel has been called an Inhuman, that's actually incorrect in some ways. Her power is Kree-derived, but not at the inherited DNA level. And it's a little weak-sauce to see the whole mutant discrimination thing recycled with the Inhumans on Shield.

I would be much more interested in seeing Fox finally give up on the Fantastic 4 and send that back to Marvel/Disney. I would have high hopes for a Disney Fantastic 4, and that would re-introduce some great villains (which the current MCU has had major issues with) such as Dr. Doom and Galactus. I think the origins of the Fantastic 4 fits better with the MCU anyway.

I agree 100%

[arcadifvid]

i think its too late to mix F4 in MCU. how could they establish geniuses like Richards and Von Doom all of a sudden while Stark and Banner have been around ? the cosmic rays origin would have to be altered too. as space travel has been far too normal already. giving it the alternate dimension origin might remind us of errr planet X.

[marurun]

i think its too late to mix F4 in MCU. how could they establish geniuses like Richards and Von Doom all of a sudden while Stark and Banner have been around ? the cosmic rays origin would have to be altered too. as space travel has been far too normal already. giving it the alternate dimension origin might remind us of errr planet X.

Richards could be an academic/experimental researcher instead of a commercial one. I think in the comics he didn't really start making money until he became Mr. Fantastic, anyway. As for space travel, I think they should still go into space but encounter some kind of energy anomaly or test some kind of experimental energy tech. That would work just as well. Not sure I'd be real happy to see any more dimension-hopping crap in the MCU. They haven't handled what they've had thus far very well. Too bad the Infinity Gems would be out of the picture by then...

As for Dr. Doom, he's always had a hang-up for Richards, so they could tie his origins in with Reed Richards. Maybe they're on the same project that sends Richards into space and Doom screws up his part, which also screws with his face, and that sets up the rivalry. He could blame Richards for his own error and sabotage the space project as revenge, only to be thwarted when they come back with powers, causing him to want revenge even more and rapidly transform his ancestral home into a dictatorship bent on making him as powerful as Richards. This stuff just writes itself.

[Cronozilla]

The most exciting aspect of FF being in MCU is Doctor Doom. Guy becomes an Avengers level villain at some points, and it'd be very exciting to explore that.

As for the origins of the characters ... it doesn't really matter, they've done a pretty good job adjusting everyone's origins as is, it's not like any single MCU character is identical to their comic counterparts anyway. So changing it up is fine.

Doctor Strange and Hank Pym are pretty good examples. Both have been worked in such a way that they've always been around, but are in the shadows. With Marvel bringing Spider-Man back into the fold, and pushing out Daredevil stuff, a FF would probably mesh pretty well into what's going on there. Introducing them could even be an Avengers movie unto itself. If some dimensional or space project brought Galactus to Earth. There's all sorts of ways you could introduce them. And it's pretty obvious at this point in time that Marvel wants them back. Fox is bumbling buffoons when it comes to FF movies, and it's currently to the point that Marvel won't print FF books anymore to cut off any advertising for Fox's efforts (something they aren't doing for X-Men ... which honestly would be stupid since those books are super popular in those circles)

The point is, it could work pretty easily. Hell pretty much any Marvel property would. Personally, I'd be very excited to see Silver Surfer flicks. Doing some artsy cosmic movie would be awesome.

[samsonlonghair]

The most exciting aspect of FF being in MCU is Doctor Doom. Guy becomes an Avengers level villain at some points, and it'd be very exciting to explore that.

As for the origins of the characters ... it doesn't really matter, they've done a pretty good job adjusting everyone's origins as is, it's not like any single MCU character is identical to their comic counterparts anyway. So changing it up is fine.

Doctor Strange and Hank Pym are pretty good examples. Both have been worked in such a way that they've always been around, but are in the shadows. With Marvel bringing Spider-Man back into the fold, and pushing out Daredevil stuff, a FF would probably mesh pretty well into what's going on there. Introducing them could even be an Avengers movie unto itself. If some dimensional or space project brought Galactus to Earth. There's all sorts of ways you could introduce them. And it's pretty obvious at this point in time that Marvel wants them back. Fox is bumbling buffoons when it comes to FF movies, and it's currently to the point that Marvel won't print FF books anymore to cut off any advertising for Fox's efforts (something they aren't doing for X-Men ... which honestly would be stupid since those books are super popular in those circles)

The point is, it could work pretty easily. Hell pretty much any Marvel property would. Personally, I'd be very excited to see Silver Surfer flicks. Doing some artsy cosmic movie would be awesome.

To me the Silver Surfer is way more exciting than Doctor Doom. I'd love to see Silver Surfer and Adam Warlock interact with the Guardians of the Galaxy. Seeing Silver Surfer on Planet Hulk would be even cooler. There are so many possibilities with Silver Surfer.

Galactus makes for a great villain too, because he's not evil; he's a force of nature.

Namor is a fascinating anti-hero in FF comics. I'd like to see another WWII era movie with Captain America and Namor.

Doctor Doom doesn't excite me much. He's kind of bland really. He's a metal-faced egotistical dictator. He could just as easily be a James Bond villain. The most interesting thing about Doctor Doom is his name.

As far as incorporating Fantastic Four into the MCU... I think Tony Stark just announced a genius grant to fund projects that could change the world. Reed Richards invents a new type of Space Propulsion. Disney can make it seem timely and relevant because we are currently living in the days of SpaceX when civilians are funding space travel.

[noiseredux]

alright, sorry to ask the same question twice, but let me re-frame it. My wife really wants to watch The Avengers (which we own). But I told her that we need to watch Captain America and Thor (which we do not own) first. Is it like you will enjoy Avengers *more* if you see those first, or is it like you won't really understand Avengers unless you see those first?

[samsonlonghair]

alright, sorry to ask the same question twice, but let me re-frame it. My wife really wants to watch The Avengers (which we own). But I told her that we need to watch Captain America and Thor (which we do not own) first. Is it like you will enjoy Avengers *more* if you see those first, or is it like you won't really understand Avengers unless you see those first?

You will enjoy Avengers MORE if you see Captain America and Thor first.
I don't know if you wife reads comic books, but I'm assuming that she knows who Thor and Captain America are.

Here's what you will miss out
Captain America: The first Avenger sets up who is Cap, who is Hydra, what is the Cosmic Cube, and how did Captain America get to the modern day (post-credits scene).
Thor sets up who is Thor, who is Loki, and a modern earth wherein S.H.I.E.L.D. must react to super-powered threats like Asguardians coming to Earth.

Joss Whedon will do a relatively good job of implying all this information in dialog, but you're going to have more fun if you just watch Cap and Thor first.

In one scene in Avengers, Thor basically just shows up out of nowhere with practically no explanation. There's two lines of dialog. One: a lady says something about how the Asguardians are basically gods. Two: Captain America has a great "Whedonesque" line which makes clear how he feels about that idea. Maybe the best quote in the whole movie. "There's only one God, ma'am, and I'm pretty sure he doesn't dress like that."