How many hours a week do you play video games (on average)?

[Exhuminator]

Exhuminator, sounds like you need to get some co-op Secret of Mana going on in that house.

About three years ago, my wife and I attempted to co-op Secret of Mana together. Now, the last time I beat SoM was in 1997, and I remember loving it. However, upon replaying it, and getting about a third of the way through, neither I nor my wife were enjoying the game much. While I still love the graphics and adore the music, the actual game design and pacing simply hasn't aged well. So we put it away and moved on to co-op'ing other things.

I'm not saying SoM is a bad game. It just didn't live up to my halcyon memories.

[SonicTheHedgehog]

Exhuminator, sounds like you need to get some co-op Secret of Mana going on in that house.

About three years ago, my wife and I attempted to co-op Secret of Mana together. Now, the last time I beat SoM was in 1997, and I remember loving it. However, upon replaying it, and getting about a third of the way through, neither I nor my wife were enjoying the game much. While I still love the graphics and adore the music, the actual game design and pacing simply hasn't aged well. So we put it away and moved on to co-op'ing other things.

I'm not saying SoM is a bad game. It just didn't live up to my halcyon memories.

I had almost the exact same experience. First played it around the same time you did, thought it was a blast. A few years ago I played through it 3-player with a buddy and my girlfriend. Like you, I didn't think it had aged well at all.

Even worse, the guy we were playing with is like a hardcore completionist, so the game totally dragged on ("we gotta level-up/max out every weapon before we beat it!"). Ugh. No, sorry, spending hours frivolously grinding on this game that I wanted to be over with hours ago isn't how I want to spend my free time.

We threw him a bone and stuck through it til the bitter end, but wow, that was not a very pleasant experience.

[Exhuminator]

We threw him a bone and stuck through it til the bitter end, but wow, that was not a very pleasant experience.

I advise you to play this game with him and your girlfriend:

There are so many ways to exact revenge upon him in it. While he's desperately trying to level his character up, you and your lady can run the board and put all sorts of curses and ailments on him. It'll probably ruin the friendship, but the schadenfreude is so worth it.

[MrPopo]

Didn't that game have a tagline about ruining friendships?

[Exhuminator]

Didn't that game have a tagline about ruining friendships?

Yes, and it works!

[Markies]

My friend and I beat that game....

- First Try: the three of us played it like a Mario Party game. The third player moved to California, so we lost interest.

- Second Try: My other friend and I started a new game. Played it like Mario Party, all for one with 2 medium opponents. Got annoyed by the cheap tactics, gave up.

- Third Try: We tried again, with 2 easy computer opponents. We didn't go out of our way to screw each other, but we were almost forced to do it.

- Fourth Try: Same Setup, but with an alliance not to screw over each other. By the end, my friend had to go out of his way not to screw me over. Finally, he let me in and the game was finally over.

I'm interested in trying it solo. But, yes, that game literally destroys friendships. If you have any ounce of wanting to win, you will ruin friendships. It's 10 times worse than Mario Party.

[Xeogred]

Secret of Mana is better than Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy VI.

I replay Secret of Mana and Seiken Densetu 3 all the time.

Better ARPG systems don't exist.

[MrPopo]

Secret of Mana is better than Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy VI.

I replay Secret of Mana and Seikden Densetu 3 all the time.

Better ARPG systems don't exist.

One of these statements is false.

[Sarge]

That's... hrm. Maybe move that to the unpopular opinions thread.

[Xeogred]

I'm proud of my Mana love.