Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?

[darsparx]

Kill it....kill it with fire. That ain't right

[LensOfTruth]

Best time to be a Nintendo/Zelda fan: 1992 to 1998.

We got three of the best games of all time: Link to the Past, Link's Awakening, Ocarina of Time.

Yes, I'm an Ocarina of Time supporter. It transitioned Zelda into 3D brilliantly while introducing so many great things, such as Z-Targeting. It didn't just make everything 3D or tick boxes; OoT had creative flare and challenge.

I don't know why it's so popular to put OoT down, especially since it obliterates the competition. We haven't seen a 3D Zelda game as robust as OoT since then. If you just didn't like it, that's cool, but I challenge anyone to come up with solid arguments as to why it isn't an achievement in game design.

[Tanooki]

It's easy to put it down because it's not the be all end all of Zelda the same reason people get annoyed hearing the unjustifiable amount of yelping by FF7 fanboys dismissing every other title before and after it as inferior. It's just not true. Neither OOT or FF7 are turds, but they're not the best of the games on that system they were born or of their franchises and people tire of it being beaten into the ground well through the dead horse it started from.

[Exhuminator]

We haven't seen a 3D Zelda game as robust as OoT since then.

Don't know about that now. Twilight Princess is basically OoT done correctly. Not to put OoT down though, it was really great for its time. It's still a highly decent game today. Parts of it have not aged very well, but some say the 3DS remake smooths those parts out for newcomers.

[Xeogred]

I can't think of anything in OoT as boring and drawn out as wolf Link segments. That was a key factor as to why the second half of Twilight Princess got so much better to me because that stuff was gone.

Regardless, my HD copy of TP can't get here soon enough!

[Exhuminator]

I enjoyed the wolf segments for the most part, but collecting the Tears of Light was dumb once, let alone multiple times.

[Tanooki]

I had the unfortunate pleasure of playing the Wii version before the intended Gamecube real original version of the game a good year or two apart. The Wii game, the controls on the wolf are crap, total dog of a setup between the control and the camera as I'd find things getting uncooperative, stuck, just not fluidly handled. Mind you it wasn't the only failure considering how painful it was trying to do as Link that burning wooden cart bit earlier in the game. I can't remember how long it was (hour?) just how rage inducing it was repeatedly failing that struggling against the asinine power of shoehorned in waggle. I was gifted the GC game later by my wife, guess she knew I used to like Zelda a lot (did at the time) and had wished I had waited on the GC one since it had word out it handled far better. Funny thing, it does, not so funny thing, the $60 lesson buying the Wii one. The wolf controlled well, and the burning cart using the natural GC design around the c-stick (handling basically like ocarina/wind waker) I kicked that things ass in minutes on the first loop.

The only major issues in TP in general I had were the annoying tears parts, they just aren't fun, as is the case with most wedged in lame collect-a-thon garbage to spread out play time. And the rest was around my free time starting to dwindle in relation to how TP is setup. The game has wide open areas that just roll on and on (pretty) but also pretty pointless so I'd get bored going from A->B. And in that, the game still used the crusty old SNES era style of saving whereas the last cave/town door/dungeon door you pop into is your 'save spot.' You could be running 20min in the field, get some goodies, and progress towards a spot, but have to quit, you save, and you lose that progress. It's fine in a smaller 2D style game where you may lose a few moments of your time, but in a huge title, they should have learned hot saving by location would be better. I didn't much get into finding that knight either for skills, but it was alright. I hold onto the game still in hopes of having time to take it down some day. I got a guide a few days ago the Nintendo made one for the GC release, maybe it'll inspire another try?

[Snatch1414]

I just posted this in another thread, but here's an unpopular opinion: I think Panzar Dragoon Saga is highly overrated.

For years I heard this game touted as one of the defining experiences of the Sega Saturn. I was really itching to give it a whirl. When I finally got around to playing it, I was really let down.

Sure, the battle system was novel... but I just didn't think it was that fun. PDS is only like 10-15 hours long, but it was honestly a struggle for me to get through it. I contemplated quitting multiple times because it just didn't hold my interest whatsoever. When I really enjoy a game, the ending is always bittersweet because I'm sad it's over; with PDS, I trudged through it and was relieved it was finally done.

That's really interesting. I had no idea the game was that short.

[Exhuminator]

I should have mentioned I played TP via GameCube. No waggle wag for me.

[marlowe221]

Best time to be a Nintendo/Zelda fan: 1992 to 1998.

We got three of the best games of all time: Link to the Past, Link's Awakening, Ocarina of Time.

Yes, I'm an Ocarina of Time supporter. It transitioned Zelda into 3D brilliantly while introducing so many great things, such as Z-Targeting. It didn't just make everything 3D or tick boxes; OoT had creative flare and challenge.

I don't know why it's so popular to put OoT down, especially since it obliterates the competition. We haven't seen a 3D Zelda game as robust as OoT since then. If you just didn't like it, that's cool, but I challenge anyone to come up with solid arguments as to why it isn't an achievement in game design.

I have yet to hear why OoT IS an achievement in game design. Most people seem to just take that statement for granted. And don't tell me that it's because there was nothing else like it at the time or that it was breaking new ground for the series. That's not game design - that's history. I won't deny that OoT is hugely important historically, but that does not necessarily mean that the game is well designed.

If you ask me, it was a step backwards in almost every category from A Link to the Past. The controls are clunky, the world is empty and lifeless, and the little ball of light is annoying. Meanwhile the story is utter time travel-paradox-inducing levels of nonsense (especially the end).

It's not a bad game but it's not the greatest in the series and certainly not the "best game of all time" that a lot of people like to claim it is. It was amazing in its time because "OMG 3D Zelda!" and adult(ish) Link.

The most robust 3D Zelda? That's easily the Wind Waker. The Triforce fetch quest was too long and it could be annoying to change the wind's direction, but that game was great.

But I totally agree with you about ALttP and LA - those two are probably the best games in the series.