What was the last movie you've seen?

Post by **TSTR** » Mon Dec 14, 2015 10:08 am

i like food
food tastes good

Website · Post by **BogusMeatFactory** » Mon Dec 14, 2015 10:11 am

Pulsar_t wrote:
but attitudes are slowly changing into consuming the green stuff more.

Why would Americans want to eat more lime jello. That stuff is just nasty. Now if you were talking about some Ghostbusters ecto cooler, then right on!

I kidd, but I am a person who loves me my veggies and my meat. The only thing that drives me nuts is soup. I can eat it and enjoy it But it never fills me up and makes me crave junk food.

Post by **noiseredux** » Mon Dec 14, 2015 10:12 am

TSTR wrote:i like food
food tastes good

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Post by **darsparx** » Mon Dec 14, 2015 10:14 am

Well we have a couple local farmer's markets I've been doing research into and honestly I think that's a safer bet even if right now the one closest to my house I have to be up before 8 on saturday mornings to make a visit to. Plus it's actually better for you to eat stuff that's in season anyways than the supermarket junk that knows no season. I'm half tempted to build that square foot garden thing before the spring season starts and once the fridge is emptied more so load the freezer up with fresh veggies if I really want them. Green beans no matter how anyone prepares those from a can are disgusting anyways...

BogusMeatFactory wrote:I kidd, but I am a person who loves me my veggies and my meat. The only thing that drives me nuts is soup. I can eat it and enjoy it But it never fills me up and makes me crave junk food.

Soup would probably fill you up more if it wasn't made from highly processed junk(which that's another thing I'm hoping to make as I get fresher veggies than what I know we sell at my work).

Website · Post by **BogusMeatFactory** » Mon Dec 14, 2015 10:19 am

darsparx wrote:
BogusMeatFactory wrote:I kidd, but I am a person who loves me my veggies and my meat. The only thing that drives me nuts is soup. I can eat it and enjoy it But it never fills me up and makes me crave junk food.

Soup would probably fill you up more if it wasn't made from highly processed junk(which that's another thing I'm hoping to make as I get fresher veggies than what I know we sell at my work).

Yes.. all that highly processed junk that I grew myself and put in. Watching a documentary does not mean you are in the know. It is like taking the word of someone on the internet when they make an outlandish statement.

I hate documentaries with political spins on them. They may be right in some areas, but are horribly wrong in others and it empowers people to be assholes about topics.

9/11 was in inside job. Charter schools will save the nation and economic change can happen at the drop of the hat, but the world chosen to be evil.

Post by **darsparx** » Mon Dec 14, 2015 12:05 pm

Well and i'm not trying to be an ass but i just don't think it's right that we don't know where the food comes from, if they were fed what nature intended(which apparently reduces the risk of these diseases and the ones caught repetedly with tainted meat should have some of these lots shut down anyways to prevent it from happening again if they aren't going to fix it for good), and if they were treated decently(I don't think abuse makes the meat taste better). That and I don't see how anyone can be okay with eating animals and plants filled with chemicals that we're not supposed to eat. Not to mention that the things that would seem so simple to make seem to take between 10-30 ingredients for a big company to make just reading the labels(which most of are rearranged processed corn). That makes no sense to be okay with...

Post by **MrPopo** » Mon Dec 14, 2015 12:57 pm

BogusMeatFactory wrote:I kidd, but I am a person who loves me my veggies and my meat. The only thing that drives me nuts is soup. I can eat it and enjoy it But it never fills me up and makes me crave junk food.

Interesting. I frequently do soup for meals, but I make sure to get a big bowl of something with a lot of stuff tossed in so I'm not just sipping broth.

Website · Post by **BogusMeatFactory** » Mon Dec 14, 2015 1:38 pm

MrPopo wrote:
BogusMeatFactory wrote:I kidd, but I am a person who loves me my veggies and my meat. The only thing that drives me nuts is soup. I can eat it and enjoy it But it never fills me up and makes me crave junk food.

Interesting. I frequently do soup for meals, but I make sure to get a big bowl of something with a lot of stuff tossed in so I'm not just sipping broth.

I just made a delicious chicken cacciatori that stI'll couldn't fulfill me. I love soups, but they have to go with something else like a sandwich for me. It is weird.

@darsparx

There is a lot more that goes into feeding the world than you understand right now. Cost does play a big factor in how our meat is produced, sure, but you can't just close down all the meat farms and make it a free range, cow petting world. Space is a huge factor to that. Don't want hormones injected in your animals? Expect less food. Want them to be fed differently and free range? Expect to pay quadruple the current cost. Tell that to a poor famoly in the u.s. who can barely afford to eat to begin with.

If you want to talk about eating natural, it is literally impossible. We have genetically altered and bred fruits and vegetables for higher yield. Nothing you eat is truly natural, we made it that way.

We also forget to take into account the world at large when we talk about changing how we do things agriculturally. Many places in the world rely on these methods and techniques to sustain themselves in places that would be considered uninhabitable.

The answer isn't simple.

Post by **Forlorn Drifter** » Mon Dec 14, 2015 10:24 pm

dasparx, I could sit down with you and talk about all the stuff you want when it comes to livestock animals, especially beef, lamb, and goat. However, Food Inc. gets much less right than it does wrong. Reading what you have said about feedlots if flat out laughable, and reads like something that would have been appropriate to say in about the '70s.

For example feedlots "feeding what nature intended". Well, if cows are put somewhere where grain is, they'll eat it. And that's the majority of what they are fed. The rest is roughage, AKA hay. The spaces are not cramped, pens are frequently cleaned, and the fastest way to get fired is any kind of abuse.

And bogus is just tapping the barrel of problems. If a family of four wants to support itself with beef, in order to make it to acceptable middle class, 100-200 head of cattle (depending on location, current prices, etc.) are needed. This is assuming land, home, vehicles, and equipment are paid off, there are no workers, etc. And let me tell you right now, trying to get vaccines or identification or the like are an absolute bitch on 20 head, let alone 100.

I understand your concerns, and I understand if you want to go local market route, that's fine. Just don't spread misinformation.

Post by **darsparx** » Mon Dec 14, 2015 10:28 pm

So wait if they're constantly cleaned then and everything then why do we still have e. coli outbreaks and other diseases? Most of it I think can still be traced back to feedlots with constant issues that aren't fixed. It just seems more reliable to not get sick off local meat versus big company meat. I don't know why but i think I'd feel safer with local and food that actually seems to know a season...

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