Reproductions: What is our community ok with?

[marurun]

But IF I were to buy a repro CD game, I would never buy a burned disc. It would have to be a pressed disc or nothing. I can burn and label a CD myself (who can't?).

The PCEWorks games are all pressed and have good looking packaging, but they are still sold for quite a premium price. Also, most of the releases are games with no translation or anything. They're straight-up bootlegs. So he's selling a couple repros that the community has lobbied strongly against having made along-side professional-grade bootlegs. This dude is making no small profit raising red flags that threaten to damage the community. Those high-grade bootlegs endanger the production of translations.

[Ghudda]

Be careful with those PCE repros from PCEWorks, or whomever. A couple of his releases were community-translated and he knocked them off. Basically, the community produced a translation (in the case of the Mega Man port, a perfect NES knock-off on the PCE) and he sells it without having ever asked the translators or programmer if they were willing to have their work distributed commercially. And lets be honest, a CD repro is as simple as burning a CD. No chip-swapping or ROM programming or whatever. The community views this guy as extremely dishonest due to this behavior. He's not helping folks out in the least. He's profiting off a community that explicitly frowns on that kind of behavior.

Good points, Mar. At least with cartridge based repros, the price is justified in the materials required to make it, but burning a disc is certainly not comparable. I think a lot of the lower-end Dreamcast homebrew were cool (Feet of Fury, and other GOAT titles), because for a totally reasonable price, you'd get a neatly packaged home brew title. I'd like to see more of this. Can anyone tell me how the bleemcast games were distributed? Same with the Half Life and Counterstrike Dreamcast physical prints?

[Tanooki]

Half Life Blue Shift and Propeller Arena were just distributed as standard DC dumps pre-configured to boot without a boot disc. You just used a standard disc burning program and you were good to go so it was very simple. The only one that I recall took any work was the Quake source built by Titanium Studios, that one they gave you a text file and told you the steps needed to pull the PAK files from your paid for Quake CD, where to shove them with their files, and then the order to burn them to a self booting disc and it was done. I only remember this as I did all 3 of them back in the day and they were amazing.

[Ghudda]

Half Life Blue Shift and Propeller Arena were just distributed as standard DC dumps pre-configured to boot without a boot disc. You just used a standard disc burning program and you were good to go so it was very simple. The only one that I recall took any work was the Quake source built by Titanium Studios, that one they gave you a text file and told you the steps needed to pull the PAK files from your paid for Quake CD, where to shove them with their files, and then the order to burn them to a self booting disc and it was done. I only remember this as I did all 3 of them back in the day and they were amazing.

Thanks for the info, though I guess I should have worded that differently. Which store fronts distributed the physical bleemcast discs? Were they sold on forums or was there an online shop that sold em? Curious to know which communities these come out of, if any.

[Tanooki]

I remember seeing EB or was it Gamestop by then selling them at the front counter if we're talking about the custom ones that just ran like ONE PS1 game like MGS or whatever on Dreamcast. Prior to it going commercial it was an emulator package you just downloaded and constructed that worked with various games, but the compatibility was never super high which is why they did those retail one offs. Before it was bleemcast it was just bleem! and I'm sure you could google research it.

[Luke]

Thanks for the info, though I guess I should have worded that differently. Which store fronts distributed the physical bleemcast discs?

I bought my bleemcast discs at my local Game Stop.

[Ghudda]

I remember seeing EB or was it Gamestop by then selling them at the front counter if we're talking about the custom ones that just ran like ONE PS1 game like MGS or whatever on Dreamcast.

I bought my bleemcast discs at my local Game Stop.

oh, wow I had no idea it was actually a legit release, I thought it was just like unofficial homebrew as we see it today.

Sorry to derail, but also: check out the waybackmachine for Bleem in 2001:
https://web.archive.org/web/20010202125 ... bleem.com/

[Luke]

I can't say that all Game Stop's carried them, but my local one did. They weren't on display either, but had official GS labeling.

This was years ago, but I asked the manager "Anything cool?", and he said "I've got Bleemcast copies for MGS and Tekken 3, but you need to have the original games for them to work".

Snatched them up as I had the original games, the bleemcast discs were cheap, and the thought of those games on the dreamcast was incredible.

I also didn't think I was stealing, as you need the original games for it to work (to my knowledge).

[CRTGAMER]

Thanks for the info, though I guess I should have worded that differently. Which store fronts distributed the physical bleemcast discs?

I bought my Bleemcast discs at my local Game Stop.

Bought all three Dreamcast Bleem and Bleem PC Commercial releases at Frys. The PC version had official updates for download as well. The PC versions and unofficial Dreamcast pak releases are hit or miss, but the Dreamcast versions converted PS1 Metal gear, Tekken 3 and Gran Turismo 2 perfectly. There are stand alone Bleem converted PS1 games for the Dreamcast, though they are bootleg ISOs.

[mjmjr25]

The hits keep on comin':

http://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?cat ... xt=SNK+AES