What was the last movie you've seen?

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MrPopo wrote:How do these sorts of movies get made? Do the people making them think they're good?


It can vary upon the studio and distributor. This particular movie was made by Action International Pictures, which was founded in 1986 by David A. Prior, David Winters, and Peter Yuval. A good chunk of AIP pictures were directed by David Prior and star his brother, Ted Prior. They specialized in low budget action movies.

Mostly the folks in these kind of films want to try to make money but also want to make movies but can't get into the major studios, don't want the sort of restrictions placed on them that a studio will dictate, need a starting point to gain experience, or want to keep working during their off time or when they are past their prime. And they've actually done us a huge service over time by giving work to young upstarts who eventually develop their careers into major talent, or who stick to the B-side of things but still manage some level of celebrity. They also give a place for older stars who are winding down to continue to work and collect a paycheck. Whole genres of film that don't see much action at times from the major studios are supported by the B-movie types, particularly science fiction and horror. And these kinds of companies also often handled the US releases of foreign films that were low budget or genre movies or independent films that could not get a national release otherwise. Sure, these studios realize that what they are making or distributing is generally crap, but it's their crap, and they often manage to realize artistic dreams with only a shoestring budget. And crap will sometimes hit it big and make a ton of money.

Businesses will also pay for it. For example, The Asylum specializes in mockbusters; they got their start doing low-budget horror movies but really took off when Blockbuster offered to buy 100,000 copies of their rip-off version of War of the Worlds in 2005. From then on, that was exactly the kind of film they produced, and they have now released the likes of The Day the Earth Stopped, The Da Vinci Treasure, Snakes on a Train, AVH: Alien vs. Hunter, Transmorphers, Paranormal Entity, Titanic II, Battle of Los Angeles, and so on.

Other companies that have been in this kind of business include:

American International Pictures - Home of Roger Corman and employed the likes of Richard Matheson, Charles B. Griffith, Charles Beaumont, Vincent Price, Boris Karloff, and many more. This was the first user of focus groups in the film industry. Also, many blaxploitation films found a home here.
Empire International Pictures - Released films like Re-Animator, Trancers, Ghoulies, and From Beyond.
The Cannon Group, Inc. - Known for films like Death Wish III and Missing in Action, which employed the likes of Charles Bronson and Chuck Norris. They were also an early proponent of anime films in the US and released movies like Robotech: The Movie.
Full Moon Entertainment - Created specifically to produce low-budget horror, science fiction, and fantasy films, such as the Puppet Master series, or to reissue older films like Tourist Trap.

And those are just US companies. Film companies all over the world have done this for years, like K.Y. Lim's Silver Star Film Company.

You'd also be surprised about how much money some of these movies can make. Do you know how New Line Cinema made it big? A Nightmare on Elm Street. Artisan Entertainment got its start releasing movies like Silent Night, Deadly Night before merging with Carolco Pictures(which ended up releasing the likes of First Blood, Total Recall, and Terminator 2: Judgment Day). Heck, Lionsgate Films' first major success was American Psycho, but Saw and Fahrenheit 9/11 are where it really took off.

A lot of these movies are now considered classics by movie fans and genre aficionados, but I'd bet you could easily find someone who would call them crap.
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Very interesting. Thanks for the rundown.
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Yeah. That was awesome, Ack. Well done.
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There is a reason New Line is known as the house that Freddy built.

Paramount was infamous for using lower budget horror to finance bigger films as well.

Also related: Roger Corman's autobiography is fantastic.
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Just finished watching an indie comedy from last year called "Such Good People", which stars Randy Harrison (from Queer as Folk, which I'm rewatching and can honestly say he hasn't aged a day) and Michael Urie as a gay couple who end up house sitting for a couple who die suddenly and the they discover a large sum of money and...

it just gets worse and less coherent from there.

Despite being only 94 minutes long, it felt like I'd been watching it for HOURS.

I gave it 2/5 stars on Netflix, but I was being generous. Too fucking generous if you ask me.
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Cy Warrior

I was on the edge of my seat! Until I scooted back, because that was totally a potential hazard. Maintain a safe living environment folks, otherwise that's how accidents happen in the workplace.

Anyway, Cy Warrior is about a robot super soldier who gets accidentally activated during a poker game and escapes from his giant Barbie box to some unnamed South American country without the most important part of his programming: American patriotism. The US decides they need to get him back, so they send a ruthless army officer who may have Tourette's syndrome considering how much he seems to randomly swear at everyone around him. Somehow the feds think this is all a good idea, with only one Navy officer disagreeing. How does the army try to get the Cy Warrior back? By shooting civilians! Woo! That's right, it's the Monroe Doctrine of the future.

When our life-size action figure hero isn't too busy making random robot noises and running from sporadic gunfire that kills innocent bystanders for no reason, he learns about the meaning of friendship from a small boy and love from his older, hot, totally legal sister. In the end, he even sacrifices his own life by standing on a transformer and holding power cables to provide electricity to a small hospital. Thank you, Cy Warrior.

Also, just a quick question: why is the Cy Warrior's robot skeleton gold? I realize that the director really wanted to do a mockbuster Terminator repairing himself scene like three times in Cy Warrior, but why gold? And why does he have to dump a bucket of cheap skin lotion on his head to make him look human again? Couldn't he just smear it on a little at a time?

Wait a minute. Haven't I seen this movie poster somewhere before?

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God damn, Italy. You even rip off your own movie posters. I am impressed.
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And I thought the early scene from Bambi (which I cannot recall) was dark.

I'm definitely NOT gonna be showing this to my nieces anytime soon.
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Hmm, never seen the movie, might have to do that. I've read the book two or three times, pretty good. I get where you wouldn't let your nieces see it though, I read it the first time when I was pretty young, and looking back I can't say it was appropriate at the time.
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Lucy.

Felt like a 10 minute short that begged to be turned into a feature. Except, well, you know...

Basically 90 minutes of surface skimming. I enjoyed the first 15 minutes a lot though.
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You should check out The Plague Dogs next by the same people and the trailer looks 100 times more demented :lol: .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7B90X7NchOs

Great opening too :P.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_lMZtLWJOs
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