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Re: Marvel vs. Capcom games to be delisted from PSN, XBLA

by AppleQueso Wed Dec 18, 2013 5:40 pm

prfsnl_gmr wrote:
8bit wrote:I never really understand the reason for why digital XBLA or PSN games need to be taken down.... Its not like Capcom doesn't fully own the rights to MvC2... very strange to me.


Certainly, Capcom owns the code and the rights to all of its characters. Capcom's use of Marvel characters, however, is under license from Marvel Entertaiment (or Disney, or whoever owns them at this point), and once the license expires, Capcom can no longer distribute games containing those characters without violating the owner's copyright. Accordingly, the games will have to be taken down when Capcom's license to use Marvel characters expires.

EDIT: It would be awesome if Capcom kept the game up and simply re-skinned all of the Marvel characters into well-known public domain characters like Dracula, Sherlock Holmes, Robin Hood, Zorro, all the characters in The Wizard of Oz, Hercules, Cthulu, The Cheshire Cat, etc.

DOUBLE EDIT: The more I think about it, that would be really f*cking awesome. Get on it Capcom!


They already made a franchise out of public domain horror archetypes, it's called "Darkstalkers"
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Re: Marvel vs. Capcom games to be delisted from PSN, XBLA

by oxymoron Wed Dec 18, 2013 5:43 pm

prfsnl_gmr wrote:
8bit wrote:I never really understand the reason for why digital XBLA or PSN games need to be taken down.... Its not like Capcom doesn't fully own the rights to MvC2... very strange to me.


Certainly, Capcom owns the code and the rights to all of its characters. Capcom's use of Marvel characters, however, is under license from Marvel Entertaiment (or Disney, or whoever owns them at this point), and once the license expires, Capcom can no longer distribute games containing those characters without violating the owner's copyright. Accordingly, the games will have to be taken down when Capcom's license to use Marvel characters expires.

EDIT: It would be awesome if Capcom kept the game up and simply re-skinned all of the Marvel characters into well-known public domain characters like Dracula, Sherlock Holmes, Robin Hood, Zorro, all the characters in The Wizard of Oz, Hercules, Cthulu, The Cheshire Cat, etc.

DOUBLE EDIT: The more I think about it, that would be really f*cking awesome. Get on it Capcom!


Mind my simpleton thinking but why not just renew the licence after it expires? I mean there's obviously demand.
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Re: Marvel vs. Capcom games to be delisted from PSN, XBLA

by prfsnl_gmr Wed Dec 18, 2013 6:11 pm

AppleQueso wrote:They already made a franchise out of public domain horror archetypes, it's called "Darkstalkers"


I know. I know. I would still like to see a fighting game with the titans of classic Capcom franchises, history, mythology, and literature, however. :lol:

oxymoron wrote:Mind my simpleton thinking but why not just renew the licence after it expires? I mean there's obviously demand.


At this point, there probably is not that much demand for the game. Moreover, another company may want exclusive rights to publish games with Marvel characters (and be willing to pay a lot of money for that right). The revenue stream from continuting MvC3 sales at this point probably does not justify the amount Capcom would have to pay Marvel Entertainment to keep using the characters.
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by o.pwuaioc Wed Dec 18, 2013 8:24 pm

prfsnl_gmr wrote:I know. I know. I would still like to see a fighting game with the titans of classic Capcom franchises, history, mythology, and literature, however. :lol:

I had that idea years ago, too. I brought it up with a game developer. Turns out, lots of people have this idea, but very few companies would want to make it.
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by theclaw Thu Dec 19, 2013 12:16 am

I dunno. It seems unusually short notice for a conventional license squabble. Especially with the Vita not affected.
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by prfsnl_gmr Thu Dec 19, 2013 12:32 am

o.pwuaioc wrote:
prfsnl_gmr wrote:I know. I know. I would still like to see a fighting game with the titans of classic Capcom franchises, history, mythology, and literature, however. :lol:

I had that idea years ago, too. I brought it up with a game developer. Turns out, lots of people have this idea, but very few companies would want to make it.


Well, o.pwuaioc, you and I are just going to have to learn how to code and make the damn game ourselves. (I see Kickstarter in our future...)
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by CFFJR Thu Dec 19, 2013 2:28 am

I love the idea as a whole, but these in particular:

prfsnl_gmr wrote:Doctor Strange = Sherlock Holmes
Ghost Rider = The Headless Horseman
Iron Fist = Wong Fei Hung


Hell yes. Me want.
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by o.pwuaioc Thu Dec 19, 2013 2:34 am

prfsnl_gmr wrote:
o.pwuaioc wrote:
prfsnl_gmr wrote:I know. I know. I would still like to see a fighting game with the titans of classic Capcom franchises, history, mythology, and literature, however. :lol:

I had that idea years ago, too. I brought it up with a game developer. Turns out, lots of people have this idea, but very few companies would want to make it.


Well, o.pwuaioc, you and I are just going to have to learn how to code and make the damn game ourselves. (I see Kickstarter in our future...)

I'll design if you code (OK, I know how to code a bit, but not nearly enough for a project like this).

My take has been historical/mythical, aka the greatest warriors of all time: Gilgamesh, Odysseus, Achilles, gods, too! Apollo, Athena, Odin, etc...
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by Sload Soap Thu Dec 19, 2013 5:47 am

There's Smite, if MOBA's are more your thing.


http://smite.wikia.com/wiki/Smite_Wiki
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Re: Marvel vs. Capcom games to be delisted from PSN, XBLA

by prfsnl_gmr Thu Dec 19, 2013 11:08 am

o.pwuaioc wrote:I'll design if you code (OK, I know how to code a bit, but not nearly enough for a project like this).


I probably can't do it in BASIC; so, I think I am going to have to read up a bit before starting on this project... :lol:

o.pwuaioc wrote:My take has been historical/mythical, aka the greatest warriors of all time: Gilgamesh, Odysseus, Achilles, gods, too! Apollo, Athena, Odin, etc...


So... a (hopefully much better) sequel to:

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