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Final Fantasy IIj: How often do you have to hit yourself?

Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 11:13 pm
by dogman91
I'm talking about the original Final Fantasy II; specifically the remake on FF Origins for the Playstation.

I'm at the beginning of the game (the third town), and I really don't like the idea of getting more max HP by being hit. The "easiest" strategy for leveling that I know of is to lose half your HP on purpose then "decide" to win the battle. :evil:

I'm wondering if this becomes a rampant necessity towards the middle or end of the game; grinding this out and basically teetering on losing each battle to gain max experience. :roll:

Re: Final Fantasy IIj: How often do you have to hit yourself

Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 11:35 pm
by Nemoide
You have to hit yourself a lot.
The game's system is DUMB. When you want to do grinding late in the game, the best strategy is find a weak monster and TOTALLY IGNORE IT, just attacking/healing your party instead. It's been a long time since I played it but I remember grinding being pretty necessary.

Oh, and do you know what your reward is for beating the game? NORMAL MODE UNLOCKED. YEP, the game surprises you by saying you were playing on EASY the whole time and never even knew it. Bleh, I wasn't a fan of that game.

Re: Final Fantasy IIj: How often do you have to hit yourself

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 12:02 am
by Xeogred
The PSP version was the only one I cared for.

You still had to hit yourself though.

Re: Final Fantasy IIj: How often do you have to hit yourself

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 1:08 am
by nightrnr
I played through the game on FF Origins (PS1) some years back. I always considered it sparring with your teammates :wink: .

I don't remember having to grind a lot, maybe a couple times for the whole game. I liked fighting the guards in one of the beginning towns for fire bows. so I may have gone overboard and overpowered my characters.

I can't remember if it was an "easy" mode or not.

Been meaning to play through the game on PSP sometime, but I think I'll take on FFIV Complete before I get to it (have a save started already, but am very early in the game).

Re: Final Fantasy IIj: How often do you have to hit yourself

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 1:33 pm
by dogman91
Well seeing myself LOSE stat points after winning a fight is making me want to try a different RPG. -_- Can anything save this or should I move on?

Re: Final Fantasy IIj: How often do you have to hit yourself

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 2:23 pm
by MrPopo
dogman91 wrote:Well seeing myself LOSE stat points after winning a fight is making me want to try a different RPG. -_- Can anything save this or should I move on?

So in the original the reason for that is the game essentially forces you to pick "mage" or "fighter" for each character. Gaining mage stats lowers your fighter stats, and vice versa.

Re: Final Fantasy IIj: How often do you have to hit yourself

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 9:57 am
by Nemoide
IMO the only reason for playing the 8-bit Final Fantasy games is morbid curiosity and/or bragging rights.

If you want to play a good 8-bit RPG, try Dragon Quest/Warrior III.

Re: Final Fantasy IIj: How often do you have to hit yourself

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 12:31 pm
by prfsnl_gmr
Nemoide wrote:IMO the only reason for playing the 8-bit Final Fantasy games is morbid curiosity and/or bragging rights.

If you want to play a good 8-bit RPG, try Dragon Quest/Warrior III.


Hey! I actually like all of the 8-bit Final Fantasy games! (I will agree that Dragon Quest III is the best 8-bit RPG, however.)

Re: Final Fantasy IIj: How often do you have to hit yourself

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 2:16 am
by nightrnr
prfsnl_gmr wrote:
Nemoide wrote:IMO the only reason for playing the 8-bit Final Fantasy games is morbid curiosity and/or bragging rights.

If you want to play a good 8-bit RPG, try Dragon Quest/Warrior III.


Hey! I actually like all of the 8-bit Final Fantasy games! (I will agree that Dragon Quest III is the best 8-bit RPG, however.)

I like Dragon Warrior IV better, but all DQ/DW NES games are worth playing IMO.

And call it nostalgia, but...
The original Final Fantasy is still awesome for me. I replay it as often as anything really.

And I actually prefer the style of FFIIIj over the 3D remake style. Was bummed that the GBA never got a port in the same style as Dawn of Souls. But the rom translation of the famicom game is good enough.

Re: Final Fantasy IIj: How often do you have to hit yourself

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 6:23 am
by BoneSnapDeez
Final Fantasy II is really solid. The bizarre leveling system becomes easy enough to decipher and exploit. I dig it. For all the flak the game gets I think it's infinitely more playable than something like Final Fantasy X-2, XII, or XIII.