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I thought this flailing travesty formerly known as Natal deserved its own topic.

Fnck you Kinect. The casual pie can only be had by so many.

Meh.

I did like seeing the Mrs. run and jump in that first video though.

kill it!
with fire

why am I imagining that Natal is going to be a huge flop?

Same thing with Move, though I imagine it'll at least have a couple of games that make good use of those controls (similar to the wii).

This is such a bad move both for sony and microsoft...

As much as I have no interest in these, and as much as Sony/MS have existing audiences with very little interest, the point of these add-ons is to expand their existing user base by bringing in those casual gamers who bought a Wii so they could play Wii Sports, Wii Fit, etc. (and little else).

So of course a group of "core" gamers on most gaming sites are going to revolt - the product is not really for them (despite a few software nods to this existing demographic). They are trying to sell this to your mom, your grandparents, and those people who love to pick up a Wiimote and flail about for a while. It certainly has a chance to succeed with those audiences, if the price can remain competitive with the Wii.

I agree with you fully, but let us vent our grievances anyway since hey, when has fan/consumer/gamer outrage ever changed a thing?

dsheinem wrote:As much as I have no interest in these, and as much as Sony/MS have existing audiences with very little interest, the point of these add-ons is to expand their existing user base by bringing in those casual gamers who bought a Wii so they could play Wii Sports, Wii Fit, etc. (and little else).

So of course a group of "core" gamers on most gaming sites are going to revolt - the product is not really for them (despite a few software nods to this existing demographic). They are trying to sell this to your mom, your grandparents, and those people who love to pick up a Wiimote and flail about for a while. It certainly has a chance to succeed with those audiences, if the price can remain competitive with the Wii.

only problem with that is; why would my grandparents, parents or any people of that demographic own a 360/PS3 in the first place?

first you pay for the console, then pay for the add-on?

I do realize that it makes sense in some twisted way, but surely that demographic already has a Wii, if they're even slightly interested in these types of games

I believe a hybrid 360 unit is going to sold in November, which is going to be marketed the same way Wii is being marketed now. ie on talk-shows, reality tv and the news, as well as conventional commercials. I could have this checked out but I'm not going to waste the effort/time.

Lord_Santa wrote:

dsheinem wrote:As much as I have no interest in these, and as much as Sony/MS have existing audiences with very little interest, the point of these add-ons is to expand their existing user base by bringing in those casual gamers who bought a Wii so they could play Wii Sports, Wii Fit, etc. (and little else).

So of course a group of "core" gamers on most gaming sites are going to revolt - the product is not really for them (despite a few software nods to this existing demographic). They are trying to sell this to your mom, your grandparents, and those people who love to pick up a Wiimote and flail about for a while. It certainly has a chance to succeed with those audiences, if the price can remain competitive with the Wii.

only problem with that is; why would my grandparents, parents or any people of that demographic own a 360/PS3 in the first place?

first you pay for the console, then pay for the add-on?

I do realize that it makes sense in some twisted way, but surely that demographic already has a Wii, if they're even slightly interested in these types of games

That's why I mentioned price. Especially if a family member already has a PS3/360 in the house, an add-on may be more economic that buying a new Wii + Motion plus + extra controller + extra nunchuck etc. Hell, if they can get the 360 basic unit down to $150, I bet they have a good chance to sell this and the system for a price that is just around $200 or so. That may eat into future Will sales.

But it IS a big gamble for the reasons you mentioned. I don't think the answer is a clear cut yes/no that these add-ons will be profitable. Time will tell.