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Tanooki wrote:I doubt it.

The R5 has two different files. Application firmware (IE: the OS) and then the system firmware (consoles+gameboy.) 1.5 is for the console/hh side of things. Fastboot is for the system itself, so it would be another install on the side and it's in testing so I imagine whenever they're confident with doing so they'll release it.
Ok, yeah that would make sense if it was on the OS side of things right?

I'm also glad the Amazon reviews are getting better. I saw your post on DP that if it was released with 0.2.2 and 1.4 firmwares it would have been liked even more. I'd agree.
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Either way I hope they roll out that speed boot firmware upgrade along with 1.5 pretty quick as it does so much right for the thing.

I'm really tiring of the jerks trolling the hyperkin facebook page to death. It's getting really old when people try and hold a conversation to have the same loud mouth jerks whining about their broken system or their order amazon are dragging out fulfilling despite the thing being shipped out. I'm shocked they're not banning these people as they're now going as far as posting the private company information and emails of all the higherups on there so they can be trolled by others. They really need to start erasing those posts and setup a separate thread or account for troubleshooting and RMAs.

Criticism is fine and all that, but the levels these trolls are going, they need to be removed. One amusing one is someone in europe who is complaining he got a DOA one (which sucks) but is angry he can't get warranty support despite the fact there's clear warning if you buy from another region you have no warranty. He's feeding into a few other trouble makers who are taking things too far who may or may not even have a system going by the comments.
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Yeah the Facebook page is ridiculous. The latest wave of entitled nerd rage seems to come from folks who just can't get over the fact that the console won't play every random repro / multicart / Chinese hack they own.
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Yup the big gripes being exploited are:
- Tight pins
- DOA systems (including overseas whiners who are ignoring you get no warranty doing it)
- Bootlegs (including fuzzy feeling repros), multicarts, and homebrew, and flash carts
- Amazon not shipping them what they're entitled to (despite the date was never promised)

It's getting old and you get enough people feeding off it to just troll other posts where a few do have real legit issues with DOA systems or some failure. The pins issue is a mix of myth and fact, they did delay to replace with better pins, but the pins themselves are tight, especially on the Genesis. They all come at one set width of space, Sega games are (like the NES Game Genie) fatter than the the Nintendo stuff, so it feels like death grip. The pins are tight like a new console, I got an almost new one a year ago (snes) and it was snug too until it softened up. My R5 was snug, now it's not, it's as comfy as legit period stuff. If you do jam stuff out of it with force instead of firm and steady you can rip out pins, serves you right too!

DOA, pity on them, that's fair game, but any system has those from Nintendo, Sony to them, and let's not forget all those dead 360s. I guess when you're a small company you are allowed no slack, but the big corporates get a pass. I don't much like those people whining due to buying overseas, yeah it sucks but it was your gamble and the warranty i only good in the country of origin, same again with the big fish too.

Bootlegs, multicarts and 'repro' games they are working to add, but people are quick to bitch not realizing that no 2 bootlegs are the same. I've seen some people having a SNES game made from a new board, or two different chopped boards and each react differently. That's a bit much to expect to get it all going on theftware. Homebrew they're solid though, and those are added as they get the info on those, same with multicarts as the header info for much is online (as I got them the data on my Supervision 115in1 and it's added detected and all. Piracy copiers(everdrive, etc) they need to get over the butthurt, it's a 100% never going to happen thing because they won't support those due to the piracy common use of them as to not draw negative corporate attention to the system.

Amazon. As I understand it, they've been consistently shipping to them, so if Amazon is not getting people the system, that's as much their fault if any because they should be honoring those presells in order of first come, not whatever suits which seems to be the case on seeing who has got the stuff so far.

Much of this I've got from the tech as well as digging around from sources. Also I know the defect(RMA) rate of the system currently is in the single digits, so for all the bitching online, much of it is just slander around the legit cases.
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It's a little ridiculous that they bought a console designed to play their legitimate cartridges and then complain they can't use it efficiently for piracy. There are a lot of cheaper ways to do that.

I was bummed about repros at first but I understand the difficulty and it turned out as of 1.4 all of my repros work anyway.
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I've been following their Facebook for 2 months, and it went from "RELEASE DATE?" every post back in May before they announced that to all this crap now with "bent pins", "my system is bricked", "flashdrive/pirate/repro support", "IPS patching", "black consoles on Amazon", "32X support", etc. All these questions have been answered completely through and through. There seem to be just a few people that are responsible for all the rabble rousing there right now. Notice how there's not many people who are posting that are enjoying their systems and having no issues. The stuff about people reporting Hyperkin to the BBB is getting a bit old too. It didn't help that HK Mktg made a Titanic analogy to the people complaining about the Amazon units. He claims that Amazon left the pre-orders open too long and the demand now outpaced the supply, therefore those who did pre-order black have to wait for the next production run to complete in August.

I saw they posted the emails of Hyperkin's corporate staff there last night. Not cool. That shouldn't be allowed.

The RMA rate is that low? You wouldn't think so with all the complaints on there. I think a lot of the issues are just people not being careful with it, forcing cartridges out, not cleaning them before inserting them, or not reading how to do things correctly like how to update the firmware.
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Like I said the firmware updating is a little un-intuitive but I'm not very technical minded and managed to pull it off. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of ham-fisted users messed something up there. IPS patching would certainly be cool but I don't believe they ever promised that, did they?

Anyway I saw a black unit for sale in FYE at a local mall. If anyone is in an area with FYE you can check there.
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Gunstar Green wrote: Anyway I saw a black unit for sale in FYE at a local mall. If anyone is in an area with FYE you can check there.
That's interesting... I'll be near the mall in a few nights.
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Too bad the only FYE I knew about got rid of their games section(and I think subsequently went out of business...too bad the last time I was up there I didn't have a job...I think I could've gotten some great deals :lol: )
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Gunstar Green wrote:IPS patching would certainly be cool but I don't believe they ever promised that, did they?
Correct. They confirmed it to someone again a few days ago. IPS patching requires a ROM file, right? Here's what they said. They also confirmed that the cartridge is necessary to play a game, which is why IPS patching wouldn't work, if I'm understanding it right.

They will not be able able to use IPS patching, if that's what you're asking.
It only dumps for video and audio enhancement purposes. The games require the cartridge.
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