World is Falling Apart Thread (Locked forever)

[Forlorn Drifter]

Yeah, I consistently forget communism is economic, not political.

[MrPopo]

Yeah, I consistently forget communism is economic, not political.

And then there's communism the theory and "communism" the implementation during the Cold War.

[Forlorn Drifter]

Oh, don't start, it probably won't stick.

Politics are to hard to talk about for me in most cases when it comes to what is what and why, because they name everything so weirdly and most people use the terms incorrectly. And so, I use them incorrectly and look stupid.

[ZeroAX]

And then there's communism the theory and "communism" the implementation during the Cold War.

And then there's capitalism the theory with the fair playing field, and "capitalism" the implementation where "we" reward market distortion.

[Erik_Twice]

I've always heard Communism was left wing, but I can't personally think of cases where it didn't lead to some form of fascism.

Fascist can be left. Cuba would be an example.

I know "fascism" is the most meaningless word in the universe but I don't think Cuba is fascist just because it's a dictatorship. If it were, what dictatorship isn't fascist?

Politics are to hard to talk about for me in most cases when it comes to what is what and why, because they name everything so weirdly and most people use the terms incorrectly. And so, I use them incorrectly and look stupid.

I don't think there's really a need to use labels just dicuss topic by topic. Chances are your views won't fit into a nice box and using a label will just open yoursef to being criticized as a category traitor when you don't agree with the group.

[oxymoron]

So you are considering socialist parties as being far right?

National Socialist, meaning fascist, which is considered far right.

Fascist can be left. Cuba would be an example.

Aren't the Cubans socialists?

@ZeroAX

Ya, Golden Dawn is probably the scariest of all them. Although, Geert Wilders and the Party for "Freedom" come close.

[Sload Soap]

The Orange Order is another large group that is dangerous to Europe. I've seen them carry Ku Klux Klan banners. They are a bunch of ignorant fools.

Not a political threat though.

[Pulsar_t]

And now for a musical break

[Ack]

You don't have to be elected in government to be able to strongly influence a society and sway political opinion.

These morons has divided some parts of Northern Ireland and Scotland.

I don't think they've divided that which was already divided by the time of their formation in 1795. But they have contributed to the continuation of that division, primarily in North Ireland.

The Orange Order is another large group that is dangerous to Europe. I've seen them carry Ku Klux Klan banners. They are a bunch of ignorant fools.

Not a political threat though.

They do have the capability to do so though, and they have had some important effects and influence around the world, particularly in Canada, though as far as I know their influence has waned there in the last 50 years. The Orange Order has died out in New Zealand, hasn't had much importance in the US in about 150 years, and has little influence in Australia. Most of the African branches have died out, save for Ghana(though they care little for the politics and are more interested in the fraternity and social welfare aspects).

Publicly the Orange Order have denounced organizations like the Ulster Volunteer Force and Ulster Defence Association along with the use of terrorist tactics, though some of their members have donated to such organizations in the past. Members have also been found with relations to groups like the Orange Volunteers and Real Ulster Freedom Fighters, though they are generally expelled when these links become publicized. They're virulently anti-Catholic and exceptionally pro-Unionist, and violence has resulted from their marches in Catholic neighborhoods. They also have connections to the Conservative Party.

Funny enough, the notable offshoots of the Orange Order tend to be more tolerant.

[Ack]

The US House of Representatives have just passed a bill to arm the Syrian rebels, 273-156. 85 Democrats and 71 Republicans voting against.

Anybody else been monitoring Kerry's testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations committee?