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oxymoron wrote:Why are far-right groups so popular in Europe?


1) 7 years of economic hardship

2) No light at the end of the tunnel

3) Smaller countries feel weak against globalization

4) Surge of refugees from wars in Iraq, Syria, Libya ect.

5) Most of them are really only far-right by European standards. By American standards, most of them are like the Republicans. The only truly far right party is unfortunately in my country :(
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ZeroAX wrote:The only truly far right party is unfortunately in my country :(


Not entirely true. There are quite a few other far right fascist parties in Europe:

Attack in Bulgaria
National Socialist Movement of Denmark
Jobbik in Hungary
Fascism and Freedom Movement-National Socialist Party, Tricolour Flame, and La Destra in Italy
Pērkonkrusts in Latvia
National Socialist Movement of Norway
National Radical Camp and National Revival of Poland
Noua Dreaptă in Romania and Moldova
Russian National Socialist Party and Russian National Unity
Nacionalni stroj and Obraz in Serbia
Slovak Brotherhood in Slovakia
España 2000 and various offshoots of Falange in Spain
Nordic Reich Party, Swedish Resistance Movement, National Alliance, Legion Wasa, and Party of the Swedes in Sweden
British National Party, Combat 18, English Defense League, League of Saint George, National Socialist Movement, Nationalist Alliance, November 9th Society, and the Racial Volunteer Force in the United Kingdom
Blood and Honour (originally British but spread to several other nations)

Keep in mind, most of these organizations are relatively small in terms of membership.
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Ack wrote:Keep in mind, most of these organizations are relatively small in terms of membership.


That is the big difference though :(. The only one of those I recognized was the Hungarian one, and unfortunately in some ways Hungary is a much bigger mess than Greece.

Also Russia is not European. Even Russian tourists I met once said "This is our first time in Europe" :lol: (and they were from Moscow not the far east of the country)
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Yeah, but western Russia has more European influence, and I wanted to represent that even in Russia, there are far right fascist parties.

Just be glad I didn't include the multitude of Canadian/Australian/New Zealand fascist organizations.
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So you are considering socialist parties as being far right?
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Jmustang1968 wrote:So you are considering socialist parties as being far right?


National Socialist, meaning fascist, which is considered far right.
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Ack wrote: and I wanted to represent that even in Russia, there are far right fascist parties.


This made me laugh :lol: . No need to represent anything, the government itself is a far right fascist party.

It glorifies its leader, it silences with violence and intimidation any opposition, it persecutes gay people, it oppresses minorities and it has a nationalistic/imperialistic foreign policy....and that's the stuff you can find proof of with a single google search, who knows what other dirt you can dig up if you look hard enough :lol:

At least the only meddling abroad our neo-nazi party wants to do is take back Istanbul from Turkey :lol:
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Ack wrote:
Jmustang1968 wrote:So you are considering socialist parties as being far right?


National Socialist, meaning fascist, which is considered far right.

The more I read and learn, I think the political spectrum is more like a circle, with one end being Anarchy and the other being Fascism, with "left and right" wing politics on each side. I've always heard Communism was left wing, but I can't personally think of cases where it didn't lead to some form of fascism.
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Forlorn Drifter wrote:The more I read and learn, I think the political spectrum is more like a circle, with one end being Anarchy and the other being Fascism, with "left and right" wing politics on each side. I've always heard Communism was left wing, but I can't personally think of cases where it didn't lead to some form of fascism.


Basically the political spectrum is 2 dimensional. The X axis is economic policy (with right being capitalism and the further right you get the less laws/control there are, and the left being communism and the more left you go the more control over wealth you get) and the Y axis is liberty (turn your head around. The more left you go the more free you are and the more rights you have as an individual. And the more right you go, the more the state wants to control you, the less rights you have ect.).

So for example Scandinavian countries are a bit to the left of the center on the economic policy axis, but to the far left on the libery axis.

So the only difference between Hitler and Stalin is on the economic axis, they are both far right on the liberty axis.

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Ack wrote:
Jmustang1968 wrote:So you are considering socialist parties as being far right?


National Socialist, meaning fascist, which is considered far right.


Fascist can be left. Cuba would be an example.
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