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BoringSupreez wrote:Missouri has a constitutional requirement for a balanced budget. If only that were true of every state + the federal government.

I really can't think of a single good reason not to require our governments to balance their budgets.
Because it would severely limit growth. It's all fine and dandy if your state wants to force a balanced budget every year, but why on earth do you think it's acceptable to force other states to adopt that, especially when many of those states are doing many times better than Missouri.
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BoringSupreez wrote:
o.pwuaioc wrote:
BoringSupreez wrote:Missouri has a constitutional requirement for a balanced budget. If only that were true of every state + the federal government.

I really can't think of a single good reason not to require our governments to balance their budgets.
Because it would severely limit growth. It's all fine and dandy if your state wants to force a balanced budget every year, but why on earth do you think it's acceptable to force other states to adopt that, especially when many of those states are doing many times better than Missouri.
I guess it's sort of like training wheels... they prevent you from doing cool stuff and zipping around, but also keeps goobers from tipping everything over. We can't be North Dakota, but we can't be California either.
Like I said, that may be great for Missouri, but why would you want to push that on other states, let alone the federal government. Don't be fooled by recent messages from right wing idiotlogues. The federal debt has been around for a very long time (and was last being paid down by Clinton!).
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BoringSupreez wrote:
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BoringSupreez wrote:I guess it's sort of like training wheels... they prevent you from doing cool stuff and zipping around, but also keeps goobers from tipping everything over. We can't be North Dakota, but we can't be California either.
Like I said, that may be great for Missouri, but why would you want to push that on other states, let alone the federal government. Don't be fooled by recent messages from right wing idiotlogues. The federal debt has been around for a very long time (and was last being paid down by Clinton!).
Well, in cases where goobers are tipping everything over, it may be best to install training wheels, at least temporarily. Spending is increasing way too fast lately.
They said the same thing during FDR's term as well... Spending is a business' way of expansion - shrink too much, and you can miss opportunities, but spend more and you could see increased revenue while others shrink. It's not at all surprising that Apple's increase in spending during the recession comes right before record profits.
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o.pwuaioc wrote: They said the same thing during FDR's term as well... Spending is a business' way of expansion - shrink too much, and you can miss opportunities, but spend more and you could see increased revenue while others shrink. It's not at all surprising that Apple's increase in spending during the recession comes right before record profits.
Government functions way different than a private business does.
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o.pwuaioc wrote:
BoringSupreez wrote:Well, in cases where goobers are tipping everything over, it may be best to install training wheels, at least temporarily. Spending is increasing way too fast lately.
They said the same thing during FDR's term as well... Spending is a business' way of expansion - shrink too much, and you can miss opportunities, but spend more and you could see increased revenue while others shrink. It's not at all surprising that Apple's increase in spending during the recession comes right before record profits.
The depression FDR handled has two things in common with ours: spending large amounts were/are being used as a means of fixing it, and they lasted/are lasting unusually long. Maybe it worked for Apple, but Apple has smarter people at the helm than the government does. I don't see any huge boom coming down the pipe for us, just more of the same or maybe an anemic recovery.
prfsnl_gmr wrote:There is nothing feigned about it. What I wrote is a display of actual moral superiority.
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Dylan wrote:
o.pwuaioc wrote: They said the same thing during FDR's term as well... Spending is a business' way of expansion - shrink too much, and you can miss opportunities, but spend more and you could see increased revenue while others shrink. It's not at all surprising that Apple's increase in spending during the recession comes right before record profits.
Government functions way different than a private business does.
They're in a category unto their own, for sure. Some things can be illuminated by an analogy, however. Only a handful of quacks would argue that the New Deal had no effect or worsened our economy.
BoringSupreez wrote:The depression FDR handled has two things in common with ours: spending large amounts were/are being used as a means of fixing it, and they lasted/are lasting unusually long. Maybe it worked for Apple, but Apple has smarter people at the helm than the government does. I don't see any huge boom coming down the pipe for us, just more of the same or maybe an anemic recovery.
That's because FDR-style spending was cut short by Republicans. The Democrats' full plan was never put into place.
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o.pwuaioc wrote:
BoringSupreez wrote:The depression FDR handled has two things in common with ours: spending large amounts were/are being used as a means of fixing it, and they lasted/are lasting unusually long. Maybe it worked for Apple, but Apple has smarter people at the helm than the government does. I don't see any huge boom coming down the pipe for us, just more of the same or maybe an anemic recovery.
That's because FDR-style spending was cut short by Republicans. The Democrats' full plan was never put into place.
If it takes complete Democrat control of the government for a spending recovery to work, maybe we shouldn't use that method.

Also, about your Clinton balancing the budget comment earlier: every budget he signed off on was passed by the Republican house first. People act like it was his accomplishment alone when Gingritch and co. deserve just as much credit.
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BoringSupreez wrote:
o.pwuaioc wrote:
BoringSupreez wrote:The depression FDR handled has two things in common with ours: spending large amounts were/are being used as a means of fixing it, and they lasted/are lasting unusually long. Maybe it worked for Apple, but Apple has smarter people at the helm than the government does. I don't see any huge boom coming down the pipe for us, just more of the same or maybe an anemic recovery.
That's because FDR-style spending was cut short by Republicans. The Democrats' full plan was never put into place.
If it takes complete Democrat control of the government for a spending recovery to work, maybe we shouldn't use that method.
Essentially you're saying that a doctor who has a life-saving cure for a patient shouldn't use that cure if other doctors want the patient to die (remember this phony crisis?).
Also, about your Clinton balancing the budget comment earlier: every budget he signed off on was passed by the Republican house first. People act like it was his accomplishment alone when Gingritch and co. deserve just as much credit.
Every budget passed by the Republican congress was first proposed by Clinton. The president first proposes the budget. But it wasn't limited to the budget alone. Clinton's early tax increases on the wealthy allowed needed revenue. Heck, even Bush I and Reagan knew as much, as they too raised taxes. If Gingrich had his way, Clinton's taxes would never have been passed, and thus the revenue we gained to pay down the debt would not have ever happened.
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