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BoringSupreez wrote:One thing to consider: video games, alcohol, and fatty foods don't (for most people) have the potential to cause an immediate severe addiction.
Nor does Marijuana.

BoringSupreez wrote:Just about everything isn't that bad for you in moderation, but it's awfully hard to moderate your use of crack. And as for alcohol, it's actually slightly beneficial if you aren't getting drunk off it.
Did you know alcohol withdraw is much more destructive both mentally and physically than heroin withdraw? I found that to be kinda weird.
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BoringSupreez wrote:One thing to consider: video games, alcohol, and fatty foods don't (for most people) have the potential to cause an immediate severe addiction.
Nor does Marijuana.
But, as I said earlier, it reduces intelligence. Still not worth it IMO.
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Got any sort of proof that it reduces intelligence?

Completely false statement. Some people will use their intelligence when high, some won't. The same can be said for non smokers.
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dunpeal2064 wrote: I think the major difference is that weed grows like that. You don't have to chemically alter it in any way. Pretty much all other drugs, even plant dirivitives like cocain and herion, are still chemically man made.
Try datura sometime (don't, really) and you'll reconsider whether "natural" necessarily implies "safe". The real reason is that the CB1 receptor doesn't control any systems that are critical to life. You can even make viable CB1 knockout mice. Opiates, alcohol, benzodiazepines, amphetamines, and cocaine on the other hand all work through receptors that mediate vital functions like breathing or your heartbeat.

Another reason is that THC is what is called a "partial agonist" at the CB1 receptor. This means that even if there are saturating concentrations at the CB1 receptor, actual receptor activation is only a fraction of what the CB1 receptor can do. In other words, the CB1-THC complex is less active than the CB1-endocannabinoid complex.

I point this out because most of the synthetic THC that's popular now ("spice") are chemicals that are full agonists at the CB1 receptor. Accordingly, we see a lot more problems with people smoking spice than people smoking pot.
BoringSupreez wrote: it's awfully hard to moderate your use of crack.
Actually crack cocaine is chemically identical with that found in coca leaves, which have been used with essentially no incidence of addiction or abuse for thousands of years in the andes. Both the route of administration, and the culture of administration have a major effect on what a drug actually does. As long as we have a culture that treats drugs like the enemy, we'll never figure out how we can use them beneficially.
BoringSupreez wrote: But, as I said earlier, it reduces intelligence. Still not worth it IMO.
There's more to life than performance on intelligence tests. Trading a tiny bit(really barely measurable after years of heavy use) of smarts for an abundance of calm playfulness and creativity is a pretty good tradeoff in my opinion. Of course YMMV.

Don't let anyone talk you into taking anything you're not comfortable with. I am a huge advocate of marijuana use, but only for myself. Your brain may like different things. And if you go into it expecting problems, you're sure to find some.

On the other hand, try not to be offended if people repeatedly ask for clarification about your choice. For some people drug use is just so normal that choosing to abstain draws the same sort of attention a vegetarian in Nebraska would. A lot of us are used to being judged negatively by teetotalers, so you may get some probing questions as they figure out just how tolerant you are. And a lot of it is just enthusiasm. People like sharing the things they like.
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dunpeal2064 wrote:Got any sort of proof that it reduces intelligence?

Completely false statement. Some people will use their intelligence when high, some won't. The same can be said for non smokers.
http://www.cadca.org/files/policy_prior ... dpoint.pdf

http://www.heritage.org/research/report ... ust-say-no

http://healthinmotion.wordpress.com/200 ... juana-use/

These should answer your question, and give good arguments against marijuana in other categories as well.
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Had a friend who played GTA III while on shrooms and weed once. All he did was drive against a wall in a corner and laugh like an idiot for like 45 minutes straight...
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dunpeal2064 wrote:Got any sort of proof that it reduces intelligence?

Completely false statement. Some people will use their intelligence when high, some won't. The same can be said for non smokers.
http://www.cadca.org/files/policy_prior ... dpoint.pdf

http://www.heritage.org/research/report ... ust-say-no

http://healthinmotion.wordpress.com/200 ... juana-use/

These should answer your question, and give good arguments against marijuana in other categories as well.
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BoringSupreez wrote:
dunpeal2064 wrote:Got any sort of proof that it reduces intelligence?

Completely false statement. Some people will use their intelligence when high, some won't. The same can be said for non smokers.
http://www.cadca.org/files/policy_prior ... dpoint.pdf

http://www.heritage.org/research/report ... ust-say-no

http://healthinmotion.wordpress.com/200 ... juana-use/

These should answer your question, and give good arguments against marijuana in other categories as well.
The second I got to CADCA your argument became invalid.
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About 90% of the people I know that use marijuana use it rarely or quit. One guy I know used almost every day except for an entire 8 month relationship because his girlfriend was against it. I'd say the whole addiction thing is for wimps, most people that I know who frequently consume caffeine have a harder time starting/going through the day without it. I know a few people (myself included) who were addicted to caffeine (ranging from mildly to very addicted) for a significant amount of time. I use red bull like many people I know use marijuana. Originally, I drank it all the time, regardless of how shitty it made me feel. Now I drink it every once in a while. I think most people can't understand the difference between addiction and great interest.
Also, most of the harmful effects of marijuana listed were from smoking it.

BTW, I don't use marijuana, nor have I.
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RyaNtheSlayA wrote:The second I got to CADCA your argument became invalid.
Indeed. Every one of those bullet points is either an obvious distortion, outright false, or something completely obvious stated in scary language. Just look at how many times they try to conflate correlation and causation. I could spend time debunking it point by point but why bother. That's really weak sauce.

Edit: Wow, I just read that paper from the heritage foundation. Just lies after lies after lies. Bald faced, scientifically demonstrable shameless lies. You really have to wonder how some people can live with themselves.
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Hatta wrote:
RyaNtheSlayA wrote:The second I got to CADCA your argument became invalid.
Indeed. Every one of those bullet points is either an obvious distortion, outright false, or something completely obvious stated in scary language. Just look at how many times they try to conflate correlation and causation. I could spend time debunking it point by point but why bother. That's really weak sauce.

Edit: Wow, I just read that paper from the heritage foundation. Just lies after lies after lies. Bald faced, scientifically demonstrable shameless lies. You really have to wonder how some people can live with themselves.
Yeah, I had to stop halfway through, just... ugh.
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