sevin0seven wrote:i don't really get the point of DB Kai. the only difference is the intro being new. mostly everything else is old and just filtered.
The difference is they undid all of the stuff that was done to deliberately slow the series down and keep it from out-pacing the release of the manga. This makes the story and the pacing much closer to the manga, and fans of Toriyama's work should like that.
There's also a huge added benefit: For anyone that was ever annoyed by the excruciatingly drawn-out pauses in the fight scenes, or the irrelevant filler material, or the recaps that took up a quarter of the episode's length, Kai is a godsend. Dragon Ball Z is now watchable to a much larger demographic than before.
still the same old story to me ... i just want a new series.
sevin0seven wrote:i don't really get the point of DB Kai. the only difference is the intro being new. mostly everything else is old and just filtered.
The difference is they undid all of the stuff that was done to deliberately slow the series down and keep it from out-pacing the release of the manga. This makes the story and the pacing much closer to the manga, and fans of Toriyama's work should like that.
There's also a huge added benefit: For anyone that was ever annoyed by the excruciatingly drawn-out pauses in the fight scenes, or the irrelevant filler material, or the recaps that took up a quarter of the episode's length, Kai is a godsend. Dragon Ball Z is now watchable to a much larger demographic than before.
still the same old story to me ... i just want a new series.
darthmunky wrote:Yeah, Kai is basically the manga on film. If it wasn't in the manga, it's not in the show. DBZ Kai is my definitive version. As for continuing the series, I'd be down for that as long as they do not acknowledge GT. That was pure shit. And the creator of DB/Z (Akira Toriyama) has even stated that GT does not count in the DB timeline. It's all non-canon.
Except they made flat-out changes in it, not just cut filler material.
I bought the first volume of Kai, but I'm still not sure if I enjoy it the same. I love some of those filler episodes. The guys taking their driving tests was HILLARIOUS! I look over at my shelf and I love the look of all the box sets next to each other.
Personally, I like being able to watch as far as the death of Raditz by the time I've finished the first disc. If you prefer it with the filler, it's not like they've stopped selling that version.
Judging from Toriyama's updated ending for the anniversary edition of the manga, if there's a sequel, it will probably be about Buu. I don't think Toriyama really wants to continue the series though, and I respect that. It was already much longer than he intended.
darthmunky wrote:Yeah, Kai is basically the manga on film. If it wasn't in the manga, it's not in the show. DBZ Kai is my definitive version. As for continuing the series, I'd be down for that as long as they do not acknowledge GT. That was pure shit. And the creator of DB/Z (Akira Toriyama) has even stated that GT does not count in the DB timeline. It's all non-canon.
Except they made flat-out changes in it, not just cut filler material.
That's false.
They just cut filler material (but not all of it, like Gregory appearing in King Kai's planet). Nothing essential was cut.
The aspect ratio is 16:9, but even then, if you want you can watch the episodes in DVD in 4:3.
flamepanther wrote:Judging from Toriyama's updated ending for the anniversary edition of the manga, if there's a sequel, it will probably be about Buu. I don't think Toriyama really wants to continue the series though, and I respect that. It was already much longer than he intended.
darthmunky wrote:Yeah, Kai is basically the manga on film. If it wasn't in the manga, it's not in the show. DBZ Kai is my definitive version. As for continuing the series, I'd be down for that as long as they do not acknowledge GT. That was pure shit. And the creator of DB/Z (Akira Toriyama) has even stated that GT does not count in the DB timeline. It's all non-canon.
Except they made flat-out changes in it, not just cut filler material.
That's false.
They just cut filler material (but not all of it, like Gregory appearing in King Kai's planet). Nothing essential was cut.
The aspect ratio is 16:9, but even then, if you want you can watch the episodes in DVD in 4:3.
I'm curious to know what you count as changes.
Oh, I don't know, about 2/3 of the series cut from it. That's all. Voice-over changes as well. The massive editing to make it seem less vulgar and less bloody REALLY bothers me. And it seems really silly, but, Mr. Popo is black. What the heck is wrong with a black character? Why is that edit even necessary?
BurningDoom wrote:Oh, I don't know, about 2/3 of the series cut from it. That's all. Voice-over changes as well. The massive editing to make it seem less vulgar and less bloody REALLY bothers me. And it seems really silly, but, Mr. Popo is black. What the heck is wrong with a black character? Why is that edit even necessary?
The 2/3 of the series cut is filler. It's material not present on the manga or overly extended sequences that add nothing.
Mr. Popo is black in the original as well. I don't know what you're talking about. If you're talking about the Funimation version, it's more neutered than the Japanese one. But even Funimation releases uncut DVDs with all the gore you want.
... i just want a new series. 
