New airport scanners.

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Ivo wrote:From some comments here I'm puzzled - if you go for the "improved" pat-down, don't they always assign a same-gender agent for it?

As ridiculous as this may be to some of you, I personally wouldn't want to have any pat-downs of the kind, but even less a pat-down by a female agent (and I think many women would object more if a male agent were to pat them down over a female). Even if they are professional about it (which is dubious it seems), I am certainly not a professional of getting felt up...

I understand this may be a bit funny the way I wrote it, but I'm serious here.
For those of you who have significant others here, while I'm pretty certain that many of you would not mind getting a female patting you down (particularly if you consider her attractive, it seems :P ), certainly I'm not alone in being uncomfortable about it regardless of the attractiveness of the lady doing it... And how many of you would mind having a male patting your wife down?

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I think the security guards will have stopped caring about who they are patting down after the first 100 people (which should be like their first 2 hours on their first day on the job). Likewise I wouldn't care much about someone feeling up my girlfriend, if the other option was her getting an extra dose of radiation.
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ZeroAX wrote:
Ivo wrote:From some comments here I'm puzzled - if you go for the "improved" pat-down, don't they always assign a same-gender agent for it?

As ridiculous as this may be to some of you, I personally wouldn't want to have any pat-downs of the kind, but even less a pat-down by a female agent (and I think many women would object more if a male agent were to pat them down over a female). Even if they are professional about it (which is dubious it seems), I am certainly not a professional of getting felt up...

I understand this may be a bit funny the way I wrote it, but I'm serious here.
For those of you who have significant others here, while I'm pretty certain that many of you would not mind getting a female patting you down (particularly if you consider her attractive, it seems :P ), certainly I'm not alone in being uncomfortable about it regardless of the attractiveness of the lady doing it... And how many of you would mind having a male patting your wife down?

Ivo.
I think the security guards will have stopped caring about who they are patting down after the first 100 people (which should be like their first 2 hours on their first day on the job). Likewise I wouldn't care much about someone feeling up my girlfriend, if the other option was her getting an extra dose of radiation.
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The fact that they subject pilots to this tells you right away that they aren't doing this to save lives.
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Hatta wrote:The fact that they subject pilots to this tells you right away that they aren't doing this to save lives.
I think they do pilots because they don't want to create a class of exempted people. If pilots are not checked, then why don't stewards/stewardesses get the same treatment?

I can understand not subjecting pilots to checks because if they want to take a plane down, all they have to do is crash it. Not much you can do there... :(
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gtmtnbiker wrote:
Hatta wrote:The fact that they subject pilots to this tells you right away that they aren't doing this to save lives.
I think they do pilots because they don't want to create a class of exempted people. If pilots are not checked, then why don't stewards/stewardesses get the same treatment?

I can understand not subjecting pilots to checks because if they want to take a plane down, all they have to do is crash it. Not much you can do there... :(
You'd think in this guy's case they'd make an exception of some kind though.
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Hobie-wan wrote:A pilot's point of view.

http://jalopnik.com/5691772/why-i-could ... a-pat+down
Pilots should be exempt.

The last paragraph changed my perspective, a hand pat down and even the current Airport Scanner surface imaging are pointless. I wonder if eventually TSA will make the Airport XRay Scanners mandatory? Even with more intense dangerous radiation to see all the way inside as in that Total Recall image?
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CRTGAMER wrote:
I wonder if eventually TSA will make the Airport XRay Scanners mandatory? Even with more intense dangerous radiation to see all the way inside as in that
hm. it'll be a great opportunity to invest in bringing the bullet trains to the west
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You all know where I stand on this issue by now. Just thought I'd drop in and add some videos for your viewing entertainment and enrichment.

Glad to see more people participating in the discussion about airport security here.

Here are some entertaining yet informative videos from youtube I gleaned off a similar thread on neogaf.

TSA search procedure explained through deadpan humor -



And here's one just for pure entertainment value. Warning to any who are offended by rap or foul language. It has both. :)

TSA Gangsta -


Funny Taiwan news 3D render of a TSA search video -
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I also just saw this on neogaf. This guy has the right idea! I may do this on my return flight to Japan. Just come in wearing my training shorts and a tshirt with running shoes. I'll change back into my street clothes in a restroom after completing screening.
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