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Re: So the whole world is kind of falling apart...
Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:45 pm
by Pulsar_t
ZeroAX wrote:Pulsar_t wrote:Ack wrote:So who here didn't see the Russian invasion coming?
I confess my misplaced optimism that the crisis would have ended at Crimea.
What's the public opinion in Serbia about this?
https://www.google.com/search?q=ukraine ... &tbs=qdr:mI would wager a majority of Serbs are with Russia on this one. Antiquated mentalities die hard
I guess opinions in Greece are more..
dynamic?
Re: So the whole world is kind of falling apart...
Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 4:54 pm
by ZeroAX
Pulsar_t wrote:I would wager a majority of Serbs are with Russia on this one. Antiquated mentalities die hard
I guess opinions in Greece are more..
dynamic?
Let me quote myself from a comment I made on a news site:
"With its strong historic and religious ties to Russia" we have no strong historic tie with Russia, we never lived with Russians like we did with Serbs, Bulgarians or even our "great enemy" the Turks. We just have a common religion, and Russia used us and the common religion as an excuse to intervene against the Ottoman empire. Unfortunately Greek nationalists took Russian propaganda to heart and believe that the Russians would actually care if an enemy attacked us (hint: it wouldn't). Besides nationalists though, Russia is also loved a lot in Greece by leftists, who still think as America of the capitalist evil and Russia as the communist/socialist people's force of good. And yes they refuse to acknowledge Putin's authoritarian ways, his homophobia, his nationalism, basically everything that makes him Russian Hitler, just because they prefer to keep on dreaming of Russia as the bastion of "leftism" in the world. Mind you I never understood if all those leftists love Russia so much, why don't any of them emigrate there instead of emigrating to western countries.
I hate my country.
I guess if Greeks like other countries occupying foreign territory so much we can give away all of Cyprus and Thrace to Turkey
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Re: So the whole world is kind of falling apart...
Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 5:10 pm
by Pulsar_t
Wow Russia is quite popular in Israel (thanks to immigration)..
Re: So the whole world is kind of falling apart...
Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 5:26 pm
by ZeroAX
Pulsar_t wrote:Wow Russia is quite popular in Israel (thanks to immigration)..
? From where did people immigrate to Israel to and they ended up hating Russia so much?
(unless you aren't being ironic, and you read that chart the other way around)
Re: So the whole world is kind of falling apart...
Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 6:29 pm
by Pulsar_t
Oops I reversed the poll
Re: So the whole world is kind of falling apart...
Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 6:46 pm
by ZeroAX
I'm surprised it's so equal in the UK and it's not 99% unfavorably in Poland
Re: So the whole world is kind of falling apart...
Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 7:00 pm
by Blu
What is there to do about ISIS? Are we going to continue surgically striking with drone attacks, or are boots on the ground needed to combat a force like this? I understand that it's a matter of Iraq and Syria's sovereignty to resolve this, but it's grayed by the fact that we were stewards of the instability that was created through the wars fought.
Re: So the whole world is kind of falling apart...
Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 8:16 pm
by Pulsar_t
If the Soviets hadn't invaded Afghanistan so brutally, and the wahabi Arabs refrained from sending their youth to fight there, we'd have been living in a far less dangerous world today. The seed was planted decades ago, we are living the repercussions.
Re: So the whole world is kind of falling apart...
Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 5:47 pm
by ZeroAX
Blu wrote:What is there to do about ISIS? Are we going to continue surgically striking with drone attacks, or are boots on the ground needed to combat a force like this? I understand that it's a matter of Iraq and Syria's sovereignty to resolve this, but it's grayed by the fact that we were stewards of the instability that was created through the wars fought.
Arm the Kurds? Unlike most middle eastern militants they have a goal uniting them that doesn't involve destruction and hatred of the west, namely having their own country.
Re: So the whole world is kind of falling apart...
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 4:14 am
by Pulsar_t
I wonder if this newest ceasefire would hold at all? Better to be pessimistic.
This Russian incursion into eastern Ukraine has reminded me of 2003 when the US-UK coalition went into Iraq on false pretext. Back then the global uproar was much louder. The invasion of sovereign nations under false/weak pretences should always be a condemnable action.