Month of Horror 8: The Hellworld Gospel Resurrection Legacy

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I have also continued watching horror movies. The next three I'm going to discuss were watched in a slightly different order, but I want to talk about two of them together, so instead we're gonna start off with the crappiest and move up in quality.

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Hellraiser: Hellseeker

This is another attempt at doing what Hellraiser: Inferno did, only not nearly as well in any regard. Basically another guy has unwittingly found his way into Hell, only he doesn't realize it yet. Here the film operates again as a mystery, but it's much more blatant and obvious than Inferno. The execution isn't nearly as good, and while it tries to convey an amount of nightmare imagery, that imagery tends just as quickly to fall flat. The hallucinations don't offer the visual spectacle of Inferno, and the movie feels confused, often trying to rely on rapid cuts to convey pain and illusion which instead make the movie feel more than a little disjointed.

In short, it doesn't work. Hellseeker falls flat as a "me too" cop out trying to follow in the wake of the flawed but much more interesting Inferno. If anybody else makes the mistake of wandering this far down the Hellraiser rabbit hole...maybe it's best to turn around here.

But don't expect me to.

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I Walked with a Zombie

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The Leopard Man

I watched Hellseeker between these two Val Lewton/Jacques Tourneur movies, which probably contributed to why I ended up disliking it so much. Both I Walked with a Zombie and The Leopard Man make use of shadow and darkness to convey mood and build suspense, manipulate the horror by never showing the audience too much, and also offer complicated love stories in which strong characters are forced to eventually reveal their emotional vulnerabilities, something that is generally far scarier than any actual monster that could be shown.

Truth is, Lewton and Tourneur didn't make monster movies. They often made romances where the shadows and the fear were a reflection of the main characters' hearts as they grappled with both the internal and external. Yes, people are dying, the strange and exotic can quickly turn nightmarish, and much is left to be explained. In I Walked with a Zombie, we are presented with multiple possibilities of the truth of the story, while in The Leopard Man, we can only piece together the motivations of the killer from the hero's musings and insights, as the killer never gets a chance to explain why he is how he is. He simply is.

Instead of vampires and werewolves, people are scary in Lewton pictures. The hard-edged guy in the office may actually be afraid of showing his sensitivity, while the bookish professor may in fact be a serial killer who can't help to sate his need for blood. The person you think you know best may be someone you don't know at all, and anyone is capable of murder. Yes, there's a touch of mysticism in both of the two films here, be it the voodoo of the black people in Zombie or the reading of cards by a Latina psychic in Leopard Man. But these are never the real threat, they're just there.

I've read that Lewton's mother and aunt were major influences on his work and are the reason why women are often portrayed as strong and capable in his films, something quite out of step with the horror film "norm." Lewton also portrayed minorities in normal situations and as human beings, and race is generally not a major consideration. Yes, it's more of an issue in I Walked with a Zombie due to the nature of the relationship between the white plantation owning family and the former slaves that populate the island. Some of the lines here feel excruciatingly lacking in empathy or understanding...but then the offspring of slavery know more than they're letting on, and they fall silent when they believe they need to.
They're smarter than the white folks fully understand, and the heavy imprint slavery has left on them is still felt in their culture, one that cries when a new baby is born and still cheers when someone dies and leaves a world of strife and bondage.

In Leopard Man, the Latinos of the small New Mexico town it takes place in are no different from the white people in the same town expect perhaps economically, but while the whites generally have more money(and not always, as some upper class Latinos are also part of the character roster), they feel empathy for their fellow man. Lewton films don't portray white people as the norm and minorities as lesser, instead showing people as human beings, individuals with flaws, hopes, fears, dreams, loves, and anxieties. This makes these movies such a treat to watch, as they handle their subject matter with a maturity and grace usually not seen in the genre.
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1.Poltergeist II: The Other Side
2. Ring
3. Ring 2
4. Rasen
5. We Are Still Here
6. Hellraiser III: Hell on Earth
7. Hellraiser: Bloodline
8. Hellraiser: Inferno
9. Pulgasari
10. I Walked with a Zombie
11. Hellraiser: Hellseeker
12. The Leopard Man
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I plan to watch the original Cat People films, Ack.

I have been playing games quite a bit more than watching movies so far, and finished up a few more in the last couple days.

I played through the campaign in Arizona Sunshine on PSVR and it is certainly some of the finest FPS-ing to be had on the system. I used the Aim Controller so basically headshotted my way through the game, taking out many undead along the way. The most interesting part of the game is probably the main character's dialogue, which gets exceedingly more twisted and desperate as the game goes on. He constantly refers to all the zombies as "Fred" or "Freddy" and talks with them throughout the campaign, which is much funnier in the game than you might think.

I also finally beat Dead Rising 3, as I had stopped playing a few months ago when I got stuck on one particularly annoying end-of-level battle against some loader arms. For whatever reason, in picking it back up, that section seemed much easier than I had remembered. This was the first Dead Rising game I played and it was enough to make me want to check out some of the the others at some point.

Next up is probably another PSVR horror game and, perhaps, that Layers of Fear game noise was posting about since I also have that as a GWG freebie.
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I've been watching a lot of old favorites and Tales From The Crypt episodes lately, but I've also watched a couple new things....





Silent Rage
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BS. The only thing you destroyed was a bar.

Somewhere down in Texas, a mentally ill man, John Kirby, brutally kills two people. A scuffle breaks out between him and the police and Kirby is shot. Kirby is on the verge of death, with nothing known medical science can do to save him. But instead of letting him die, one of the doctors gives him an experimental serum meant to enhance cellular strength and regeneration. As expected, giving the homicidal maniac super invulnerability proves to be a poor choice.

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You can just tell he idolized Dr. Frankenstein growing up.

Silent Rage is a horribly dull horror movie starring Chuck Norris, whose usual flurry of kicks and punches are seen here as more of an afterthought than the main attraction. The film even gives him a bunch of rowdy bikers to beat up, who, as far as I can tell, were added for the sole purpose of livening up the film. But the choreography and pacing is so half-hearted that even a bar-room brawl scene comes off as dull.

Instead, we’re forced to wait for Kirby to wake up and go on a rampage before anything interesting happens, and even then it’s not anything we haven’t seen before. The serum not only turns him into an indestructible killing machine, but an indestructible killing machine that’s watched too many horror movies, as he has no originality and seems intent on recreating scenes from other, better films.

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Hey, wait, you’re not Shelley Duvall

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It would help if the characters had some sort of interesting personality, but with the exception of the scientists, whose scenes are few and far between, everybody falls flat. Norris is about as stiff as a piece of petrified wood. The female lead is pretty much just there for him to oggle at like some sort of creeper. The bikers motivation doesn't go farther than ‘Imma drink and beat up the sheriff, her dur.’ And poor Stephen Furst is once again typecast as the the bumbling dolt, almost accidentally shooting Norris less than 10 seconds after showing up on screen.

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If only his aim had been better.

Silent Rage is just...dull. It takes too long to get going, there’s too many extraneous plot points and when the film finally does get to the ‘meat’ of what it’s supposed to be about, it antagonizing draws out scenes to the point where you just want to tell it to ‘get on with it!’ Even the fights, which might have actually had a chance to be slightly entertaining, are uninspired and feel like they’re only there to draw the length of the film out.

This was one of two movies I watched this week, thanks to Amazon adding a couple Rifftrax horror features to their line-up. It was more than deserving of the treatment. And though I clearly didn’t give it a glowing response, it is at least watchable on it’s own without the added commentary. Dull, but watchable.

The same can’t really be said of the next one I watched…..
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The Last Slumber Party
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Yes, I know, it’s in spanish. No me importa.

A trio of teenage girls decide to have a slumber party at one of the girls homes. A couple of guys decide to party crash, including a recently escaped mental patient armed with a scalpel.

The Last Slumber Party feels less like a movie and more like the pet project of a teen who forced his friends to help him make a horror movie one weekend, under extreme duress, because he was obsessed with slashers. The dialogue is horrendous, the acting is even worse, the editing is choppy, the scenes drag on for what feels like eternity and the characters are so brain-dead that I’m positive their IQs are well into the negative range. It’s so bad that they don’t even notice when the killer is right next to them.

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Like, seriously guys. How bad must your peripheral vision be for you to miss that.

The only notable point I can think of in it’s favor, is that it’s one of the few teen slashers devoid of any nudity. With how bad the movie was going, I kept expecting it to show up in droves as a way of overcompensation, but it never happened. Hell, even Silent Rage threw in random nudity.

It did have some blood, though. So I guess that’s another point.

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But it kind of looked like liquid gelatin, so I immediately retract my point.

And I might be able to forgive some of this, but everyone just looks so bored. It’s hard to care about something when no one else seems to have put any care into it. Several actors flub their lines mid-sentence, and instead of doing it again the director just lets them keep right on going. Several streams of dialogue are delivered so monotonically that you feel the actors are reading from a cue-card just off screen. And did I mention everyone just looks bored?

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Whoo hoo. Party…*yawn* on.

The only person who doesn’t look bored is the killer. Which would be great, except he’s just so bland. There’s nothing menacing about him at all. He’s mostly seen just slinking around in the background waiting to slice someone up. And when the movie does focus on him, they just show him staring, bug-eyed into the camera with the scalpel right in front of his face. It’s not creepy at all. It just comes across as goofy. But I guess no one pointed that out to them, because the film kept on repeating that same scene over and over and over again.

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Seriously, this shot is like 30% of the film.

If Silent Rage was dull, than The Last Slumber Party was just...sad. It clearly tries to copy better movies, but doesn’t manage to get anything right. The editing is bad, the characters are dumb teenagers boiled down to their dumbest, the dialogue sounds like something a ten-year old would say and the actors look like they just showed up and put in the most minimal amount of effort. In other words, they just showed up. The only thing that made this movie enjoyable for me, was that I was smart enough to watch the Rifftrax version. If not for that, I don’t think I would have made it to the end of the original.

As for the Riffed version, that was enjoyable. I must say, those three guys were on point with their commentary. It’s filled with a lot of great references that slasher and horror fans will recognize and appreciate. So if you must watch the film, for the love of all that is horror-fied, please go with that one and avoid the original.

Or go watch Slumber Party Massacre instead. You’ll thank me.




I've got another one to post, but that'll have to come later.
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Tonight I watched the Flatliners (1990) - maybe not much of a horror movie, but there is a Halloween scene, so it's relevant. I'd rank it as "pretty okay" and don't have too many thoughts on it.

I feel like I should also mention that I've picked up the original Castlevania again. Thankfully the GBA version saves your level so you can continue after a long break. I managed to reach Death with full health (thanks to the stopwatch) only to be annihilated in short order. T__T
I've never actually beaten any of the 8-bit Castlevania games... MAYBE THIS OCTOBER IT WILL HAPPEN!
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Last night, my wife and I watched Blade (1998). I was surprised how well it's held up. The CGI effects looked bad in 1998, and they still look bad today. Wesley Snipes plays his part completely straight, however, and oozes action movie star charisma. Stephen Dorff's Deacon Frost also remains one of the very best villains in any Marvel film. (I would love for Marvel to fold these into the MCU somehow...maybe a Wesley Snipes cameo in a Netflix show?) I also really appreciate the movie's majority minority casting, and it still feels interesting and progressive nearly 20 years after its release. The action scenes are also very well done, and the movie quickly builds an interesting univrse. Finally, it has one of Wesley Snipes' very best lines, and despite (or perhaps because of) its extreme cheesiness, the movie is just a lot of fun. :D

We have Blade II scheduled for later this month. I've never seen it, and I am really looking forward to it. (It's a Guillermo Del Toro film!)
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prfsnl_gmr wrote:Last night, my wife and I watched Blade (1998). I was surprised how well it's held up. The CGI effects looked bad in 1998, and they still look bad today. Wesley Snipes plays his part completely straight, however, and oozes action movie star charisma. Stephen Dorff's Deacon Frost also remains one of the very best villains in any Marvel film. (I would love for Marvel to fold these into the MCU somehow...maybe a Wesley Snipes cameo in a Netflix show?) I also really appreciate the movie's majority minority casting, and it still feels interesting and progressive nearly 20 years after its release. The action scenes are also very well done, and the movie quickly builds an interesting univrse. Finally, it has one of Wesley Snipes' very best lines, and despite (or perhaps because of) its extreme cheesiness, the movie is just a lot of fun. :D

We have Blade II scheduled for later this month. I've never seen it, and I am really looking forward to it. (It's a Guillermo Del Toro film!)
Blade 2 and 3 are both fun in their own right - enjoy!
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Watched the 1985 film demons last night and it showed that Dario worked on this. It wasn't good but the were some good nasties there and the makeup work/effects were too good for the film. Basically the film is a demon zombie flick set in a movie theater. One of the characters get's infected by demon virus and starts spreading the joy around. It's sloppy and kinda bizarre but it might be worth for to some because of the effects.
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The Old Dark House (1932 version)

Let me tell you what I liked about this eighty five year old horror film; it's not modern. That means it doesn't rely on jump scares, features no orchestrated "scary" music, doesn't use gore to shock, nor nudity to allure, has a decent plot, and is not stupidly long. (Also it has Boris Karloff, that's reason enough alone.) The basic premise here is an old house owned by a family with dark secrets, whom end up playing hosts to various guests, due to a rainstorm forcing people off the road. It's a dark night of strangers trying to cohabit amidst suspicions and assumptions. Things really start to turn sour as various inhabitants start drinking. As the film progresses a feeling of unease begins to build, and half the fun is simply guessing what's really going on. Who is lying, who is truly dangerous, and what is really upstairs behind that barred door? There are plot twists aplenty, but never does the plot proceed in a way that seems unbelievable. Now because this is a pre-code film, things get a little more violent and dark then you might expect, and one woman does spend most the film in negligee. But I had a good time overall watching the tale spin in a way I didn't expect. The Old Dark House is old for sure, but it's still worth spending a night in.

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To update Halloween-y games I've beaten in October so far:

Ghost Sweeper Mikami: The Master Exorcist with the Nice Body (SFC)
Hammerin' Harry: Ghost Building Company (GB)
Haunted House (2600)
Jack Bros. (VB)
Monster Party (NES)
Musya: The Classic Tale of Japanese Horror (SNES)
Splatterhouse: Wanpaku Graffiti (NES)
Uninvited (NES)
Vampire: Master of Darkness (SMS)

All of those have been reviewed in the Games Beaten thread.
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Fright Night

Falters at places but still a solid 80's horror comedy with good production values. Chris Sarandon's cocky vampire character and his manservant Jonathan Stark are fun to watch and the other leads do a good job too. The film goes on bit too long but not long enough to get boring. The wolf scene was pretty brutal.
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