Video Games & Drug Use
-
gtmtnbiker
- Next-Gen
- Posts: 4320
- Joined: Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:14 pm
- Location: Massachusetts
Re: Video Games & Drug Use
So are there any drugs that are not good to use? In other words, weed is ok, but drug X is not?
I was reading the articles in indystar.com this morning and came across this one:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... years.html
Both the mother/boyfriend were high on Oxycontin when the boyfriend decided to pull two teeth and the toenails from the mother's 2 year old son.
I'm sure that both folks were mentally deficient but one would have to agree that drug use exacerbated it.
I was reading the articles in indystar.com this morning and came across this one:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... years.html
Both the mother/boyfriend were high on Oxycontin when the boyfriend decided to pull two teeth and the toenails from the mother's 2 year old son.
I'm sure that both folks were mentally deficient but one would have to agree that drug use exacerbated it.
Re: Video Games & Drug Use
The question isn't whether "drug X is ok" or not. The question is can you actually ban drug X without making it worse. All of our experience from the 20th century indicates that we cannot ban any drug without increasing the harm it causes. Even alcohol, one of the most addictive, impairing, violence promoting drugs, the "demon liquor" itself was made more harmful by prohibition.gtmtnbiker wrote:So are there any drugs that are not good to use? In other words, weed is ok, but drug X is not?
For every crazy dangerous drug user you cand find, I can find a crazy dangerous religious person. Should I use this fact to argue that religion should be banned? No, I understand that crazy people are drawn to religion, just like they are to drugs.Both the mother/boyfriend were high on Oxycontin when the boyfriend decided to pull two teeth and the toenails from the mother's 2 year old son.
It's not even hard to find examples. The Phelps family, the cover up of pedophilia in the Catholic Church, Warren Jeffs, Christian Scientists who kill their children by refusing treatment, etc. If you were inherently biased against religion, you could make an argument that religion could be banned because of all these awful things. But that would be a disingenouous argument because it's ignoring the fact that religion does good things as well as bad, and it also ignores the harm enforcing a law against religion would cause.
Do you see why your argument here holds very little weight now?
I agree actually. But I wonder, do you think people with this level of mental deficiency would be waiting for drugs to be legal before they get fucked up and mutilate their kid? I suspect not. That would mean that prohibition isn't preventing this kind of thing.I'm sure that both folks were mentally deficient but one would have to agree that drug use exacerbated it.
We are prepared to live in the plain and die in the plain!
- dunpeal2064
- Next-Gen
- Posts: 5350
- Joined: Tue Feb 01, 2011 12:55 pm
- Location: Central Valley, California
- Contact:
Re: Video Games & Drug Use
In case you didn't know, Oxycodon = heroin. Heroin addicts snort it.
I personally wouldn't even take that shit if it was prescribed.
I think the major difference is that weed grows like that. You don't have to chemically alter it in any way. Pretty much all other drugs, even plant dirivitives like cocain and herion, are still chemically man made.
Weed is just like a really crazy tea.
Even alcohol goes through more manufacturing. And the cancer thing is just straight up false. People believe what they want, but any real studies done have proven otherwise
I personally wouldn't even take that shit if it was prescribed.
I think the major difference is that weed grows like that. You don't have to chemically alter it in any way. Pretty much all other drugs, even plant dirivitives like cocain and herion, are still chemically man made.
Weed is just like a really crazy tea.
Even alcohol goes through more manufacturing. And the cancer thing is just straight up false. People believe what they want, but any real studies done have proven otherwise
-
RyaNtheSlayA
- Next-Gen
- Posts: 9201
- Joined: Fri Mar 14, 2008 4:56 pm
- Location: Denver CO, USA
Re: Video Games & Drug Use
The drug may not cause cancer, but the smoke does. Anybody that thinks smoking is healthy is just completely full of it. However, there are a few cannaboids in marijuana that are actually anticancerous, and THC and CBD are neuralprotective. Really all the negative side effects of marijuana come from smoking. Luckily there are plenty ways to consume it that don't involve smoke.dunpeal2064 wrote:In case you didn't know, Oxycodon = heroin. Heroin addicts snort it.
I personally wouldn't even take that shit if it was prescribed.
I think the major difference is that weed grows like that. You don't have to chemically alter it in any way. Pretty much all other drugs, even plant dirivitives like cocain and herion, are still chemically man made.
Weed is just like a really crazy tea.
Even alcohol goes through more manufacturing. And the cancer thing is just straight up false. People believe what they want, but any real studies done have proven otherwise
Older. Not wiser.
Re: Video Games & Drug Use
I'm not even supposed to be here today!dunpeal2064 wrote:In case you didn't know, Oxycodon = heroin.
But in case you didn't know Oxycodon is not heroin. It is however, an opiate derivative, but is not heroin.
- dunpeal2064
- Next-Gen
- Posts: 5350
- Joined: Tue Feb 01, 2011 12:55 pm
- Location: Central Valley, California
- Contact:
Re: Video Games & Drug Use
Or you could use a vaporizer
but yes carcinogens are bad for you. There isn't a single case of someone that only smoked weed getting cancer of any sort though, they all also smoked cigs, which ARE bad for you, and DO cause cancer ( yet dont get you high and are legal
)
In fact, it fights surface skin tumors wonderously.
Not trying to sound like an advocate here, I've just done some research on the subject.
but yes carcinogens are bad for you. There isn't a single case of someone that only smoked weed getting cancer of any sort though, they all also smoked cigs, which ARE bad for you, and DO cause cancer ( yet dont get you high and are legal
In fact, it fights surface skin tumors wonderously.
Not trying to sound like an advocate here, I've just done some research on the subject.
- dunpeal2064
- Next-Gen
- Posts: 5350
- Joined: Tue Feb 01, 2011 12:55 pm
- Location: Central Valley, California
- Contact:
Re: Video Games & Drug Use
They are both opiate dirrivitives, and are extreamly similar, enough that a herion addict wouldn't mind just snorting oxy
They are pretty much the same, but you are right, not identical
They are pretty much the same, but you are right, not identical
-
RyaNtheSlayA
- Next-Gen
- Posts: 9201
- Joined: Fri Mar 14, 2008 4:56 pm
- Location: Denver CO, USA
Re: Video Games & Drug Use
Exactly.dunpeal2064 wrote:Or you could use a vaporizer
Anyways, don't attempt playing Ranger X whilst stoned, it just doesn't work.
Older. Not wiser.
- dunpeal2064
- Next-Gen
- Posts: 5350
- Joined: Tue Feb 01, 2011 12:55 pm
- Location: Central Valley, California
- Contact:
Re: Video Games & Drug Use
Heh, tried that one actually. Hated it.RyaNtheSlayA wrote:Exactly.dunpeal2064 wrote:Or you could use a vaporizer
Anyways, don't attempt playing Ranger X whilst stoned, it just doesn't work.
Maybe I should try playing it sober, as I've heard its great
- BoringSupreez
- Next-Gen
- Posts: 9738
- Joined: Wed Feb 11, 2009 10:09 pm
- Location: Tokyo
Re: Video Games & Drug Use
One thing to consider: video games, alcohol, and fatty foods don't (for most people) have the potential to cause an immediate severe addiction. Just about everything isn't that bad for you in moderation, but it's awfully hard to moderate your use of crack. And as for alcohol, it's actually slightly beneficial if you aren't getting drunk off it.puke_face wrote:Everything else in life tends to give you cancer, too. And why drink alcohol? Why eat fattening foods? Why play video games?BoringSupreez wrote:I've never done drugs, and have no plans to do so. Why would anyone smoke marijuana? Even if it makes you feel good or whatever, it has been shown to reduce intelligence & increase your chance of having cancer, just like anything else you smoke. I don't want to screw up my brain, just doesn't appeal to me.
prfsnl_gmr wrote:There is nothing feigned about it. What I wrote is a display of actual moral superiority.