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Re: Team Ico
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:29 pm
by crux
For the record, somewhere you mentioned that you could make a topic about all the arguments you get into. If you need an explanation, it's because you like to make unsubstantiated comments and present them as fact. I present that colossi and colossuses are both correct, depending on the language inflection, and yet your response is:
I wasn't ever taught to use Cactuses Because it isn't right.
It's like you're trying to start an argument. Every single respected dictionary agrees that
cactuses and the Latin
cacti (as well as the uninflected plural
cactus) are each correct, yet you make the claim that "cactuses... isn't right". And that's just one of many examples (the uses of conjunctions and the definitions of algebra and grammar being others - and those are only examples that pertain directly to me).
Re: Team Ico
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 4:41 pm
by yomomma1
I'm trying to get in an argument because I didn't major in english. Makes perfect sense to me.
You could have just let it go, Like I did in my previous post. Not to start another argument, or anything. (As you can Pm me) Every respected dictionary? This is where, I could point out that your definition of respected dictionary, and mine can differ. The problem with our disagreement is that English isn't like science, and does not have universal laws. Rules in English always change.
"Cactus
A cactus (plural: cacti) is any member of the spine plant family Cactaceae, native to the Americas. They are often used as ornamental plants, but some are also crop plants.
Cacti are distinctive and unusual plants, which are adapted to extremely arid and hot environments, showing a wide range of anatomical and physiological features which conserve water. Their stems have expanded into green succulent structures containing the chlorophyll necessary for life and growth, while the leaves have become the spines for which cacti are so well known.
Cacti come in a wide range of shapes and sizes. The tallest is Pachycereus pringlei, with a maximum recorded height of 19.2 m, and the smallest is Blossfeldia liliputiana, only about 1 cm diameter at maturity. Cactus flowers are large, and like the spines and branches arise from areoles. Many cactus species are night blooming, as they are pollinated by nocturnal insects or small animals, principally moths and bats. Cacti range in size from small and globular to tall and columnar. "
Cactus is fine. You should, probably stop arguing over this. Or make a thread for arguing over the correct term of Cactus, Fish, Fungus, Octopus, Colossus, etc. (Too humor you) Get it...
Re: Team Ico
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 4:58 pm
by crux
I had a feeling you'd get semantic on me and quote one arbitrary source. In fact, you quoted wikipedia, which is not only an informal source, but also cites cactuses as proper plural usage further down in the article (and cited with Merriam-Webster's Online Dictionary).
Furthermore, you said it yourself - you're not an English major, yet you make claims of factual rights and wrongs regarding the English language. We all make mistakes occasionally, but in just two topics I've seen you do so numerous times for the mere usage of being contrary. If you're going to take or defend a contrary position, at least ensure your position is factually and logically valid.
And for the record, I'm not entirely against an argument. (This is the internet, consarnit!) You don't seem to entirely enjoy the attention, however, so I thought best to let you know why you keep getting put in the position.
Re: Team Ico
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 5:17 pm
by J T
Grammar lesson of the day:
This thread was cool. Notice the past-tense.
Re: Team Ico
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 5:25 pm
by CRTGAMER
J T wrote:Grammar lesson of the day:
This thread was cool. Notice the past-tense.
As the OP like this Thread to remain active not locked, maybe back on Topic?
So here is another tease.
http://playstationlifestyle.net/2009/09/26/fumito-ueda-keen-on-ico-collection/
Re: Team Ico
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 5:26 pm
by yomomma1
Re: Team Ico
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 5:27 pm
by crux
If it helps get us back on-topic, I think Ico is one of the few games I ever beat during a rental session. Thanks to that, I didn't buy it for another five years or so.
I've said it in other topics, but I couldn't appreciate Shadows of the Colossus as much as I thought I should. I've played Final Fantasy XI off and on for some six years, so the sprawling landscape didn't as impress me as I've heard it impresses so many. The colossi (I'm actually a fan of the Latin plural) were amazing, but getting to each seemed laborious and I found the lizard tails to be trivial distractions.
Re: Team Ico
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 5:51 pm
by CRTGAMER
At a loss why you had a hard time getting to each Colossus. Simply following light with the sword.
I thought this to a lot less painful then clicking through all the dialog of a lot of RPG games.
Re: Team Ico
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 6:05 pm
by crux
I didn't say I had a hard time, I said I found it laborious. As I didn't take a lot of joy in the various landscapes, riding around on the horse simply felt like a means to an end. The game is essentially a boss rush, so tying the game together in this otherwise empty land getting from boss to boss felt too forced. Add the fact that I'm a completionist, so getting the lizard tails (which again felt pretty trivial) just lengthened the time it took me to get to the next colossus.
That said, the art direction was absolutely beautiful. I may have not enjoyed the overarching landscapes, but the land immediately surrounding the colossi very much drew me into the battles.
In a way, it's as if Ico is almost the exact opposite experience. My biggest gripe in Ico were the battles. They could be very laborious, but getting from place to place was the puzzle and the joy of the game. In SotC the puzzle and the battles were one and the same, but moving from one to the other was simply a matter of traversing the landscape. I really hope The Last Guardian is a combination of the best elements from both games.
Re: Team Ico
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 6:39 pm
by CRTGAMER
Okay I see. Ico a huge exploring with not so great battles and Shadow having great continual Boss battles with great vistas but little other interaction. I guess one can just not use the "Sword Cheat" to extend the exploration, but it would be for the scenery tour which for me is enjoyable.