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flex wood wrote:

SirGawain wrote:

RCBH928 wrote:How long did it take to bring peace after WWII?

Going on 70 years considering Israel is a direct outcome of WWII

Actually I wouldn't say so. Israel has nothing to do with WWII. They could have returned the Jews to their original countries (Germany and wherever else) with compensation. I will make a big guess that there are still jews in Germany, so it must be a good place for jews to be.

Lets talk about the main countries like USA, Japan, Germany, Russia, England.. etc . I think in less than 10 years there was export/import business with Japan. Yet after 10 years we still don't have a stable government in Iraq.

10 years is a lot of time especially if you consider that the war ended in like less than a year. Saddam himself was executed around 9 years ago. So 9 years after the execution of the leader of the last regime, we still can't have a stable government? Sounds like a joke to me.

I believe its the worst for the US soliders, they are dying for reasons they do not understand. They are fighting in a land that is about 2 continents and an ocean away from their homeland giving their lives away and no results back. Even if there was a result, it would have no affected them or their homeland (Americans and America)

SirGawain wrote:

RCBH928 wrote:How long did it take to bring peace after WWII?

Going on 70 years considering Israel is a direct outcome of WWII

Which is an outcome of WWI

The shameless twat. The invasion was a total clusterfuck, and thousands of psychotic creeps lined their pockets with billions embezzled from both US and Iraqi taxpayer monies, not to mention the trauma that was inflicted on millions of people. The latent suicides speak volumes of the injustices done in that part of the world (which everyone half-aware of geopolitics warned against invading), sometimes you can't live with yourself if you have any bit of integrity left.

Who's that?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ari_Fleischer

A former Dubya mouthpiece

The sad part of Iraq is that its extremely oil rich. Iraqi's should be living a prosperous life more than the Europeans and Americans. Just shows you that the problem is with the people, and what happens when people put their owns benefit before the benefit of all.

Same thing with Africans and Japanese. Africa is raw material rich, Japan is raw material poor. Different people, different outcome.

Imagine if Playstation was manufactured in the Congo...

I have yet to see a single country that has managed true prosperity based on raw materials.

Oil wealth is easy wealth which makes the populace complacent and unproductive. Look at Saudi Arabia which produces nothing else. What will it do when the oil runs out?

Hard to get wealthy when your country has been played with by every single world power since its existance. How many times has the goverment of Iraq been overthrown, attacked, boicoted or otherwise harmed by the United States, France and the British Kingdom during the last 250 years? Hundreds?

General_Norris wrote:Hard to get wealthy when your country has been played with by every single world power since its existance. How many times has the goverment of Iraq been overthrown, attacked, boicoted or otherwise harmed by the United States, France and the British Kingdom during the last 250 years? Hundreds?

You forgot Iran and Greece

If you look at the historical timeline, it's interesting to find that Iraq and the Levant in general never recovered from the Mongol invasion that ravaged the region. Genghis Khan didn't bring any useful "culture" to the conquered lands. Imagine if his sons had reached Wales The Ottomans had this fixation on military conquest as well, their empire was largely neglected in terms of development. Sure they did some neat things with navigation and other fields of science, but nothing that matched the height of the Arab scholarly period where they were crazy about saving as much as possible of the science of the ancients.

EDIT - Sheesh haven't those creeps heard of the Geneva convention?



EDIT#2 - This might also not be widely known, but Iraq had a number of top scientists, some of whom were assassinated by Mossad, the rest emigrated due to Saddam's crazy lust for warfare. Iraq even had a nuclear programme which was shut down by the Israelis in 1981.