Breaking Bad Season 3 Starts Tonight

[racketboy]

I've seen that joke/comics before, and it always irks me. It's not the medical expenses he was worried about -- it was more that he wouldn't be around to provide for his family...

[Ack]

Sure stealing and selling drugs is bad, but not as bad as having an affair

How do you figure?

It should probably be noted that RCBH is from Bahrain, a predominantly Muslim country where individuals could be charged with the death penalty for adultery until mid-2010. While the possession, use, and trafficking of illegal narcotics also carries severe penalties and fines in Bahrain, adultery is considered the more grevious offense. RCBH's opinion and ours may well differ here primarily due to a clash of cultural values.

1) Yes, but that does not mean he did it too. If you see a person dying and not help him, is that like killing him? I mean if death sentence was the punishment for murder, will you give some one the death sentence because he didn't do anything to help a dying human? If you see someone being mugged , and you didn't do anything about it, does that mean you are a robber too? its arguable , but to me its not the same thing.

There are situations, such as Jesse's manipulative and heroine-addicted girlfriend, where Walt intentionally fails to act while watching the character die. Walt also intentionally murdered a pair of drug dealers in the first season, first by noxious gas and then via strangulation.

3) I didn't notice when did he last used meth, but he is walking the same path any way. Drug dealing, no degree, wasting money, betraying colleagues , no family life, uncontrolled actions, it is the same path a drug addict would walk. Compare that to Walt he does not even smoke, he is a chemistry genius, his intentions are to help his family, he did it(selling drugs) in the first place because he is old and doesn't have the money to treat himself. What was Jesse's reasons? He is young, he still didn't start a family, he is not ill, he doesn't need large sums of money. He did it just because of the money. That is my interpretation.

It should also be considered that Jesse broke under family pressure while growing up. Again, see the first season when he returns home to his family. Also note that while he covers for his younger brother's drug use, he also destroys his drugs to prevent him from following down the same path. Jesse could be considered a tragic figure because he rebelled and fell into a cycle of continual failure.

4) Yes...pride, ego , and anger is all there but let us assume that Walt never got cancer and he had enough money to secure his family's future . Will his pride, ego, and anger lead him to sell meth? I don't think so. I really think the story of Breaking Bad is about how a good person turned bad due to the society around him.

I think this comic here explains this idea very well:

Walt's primary concern was originally to use the money he made to provide for his family's well being after his death, not to intentionally earn money to pay for his operation. Originally he was considering simply giving up and dying. He seeks treatment after his family urges him to do so and is surprised to enter remission but is also haunted by his actions and steadily corrupted as a result of them.

As for the comic, Walt would likely fall into a grey zone of insurance: he's middle class, so Medicaid may not cover him due to his overall income. He's too young for Medicare. He works for a public school, which may not provide insurance options since it is technically a state-controlled government entity subject to the current laws of their residing state. Even if he does have private insurance, his son's physical condition and his wife's pregnancy may have maxed out the allocations he could receive. And again, he wasn't thinking of his own life by getting into drug production. He was thinking of his family.

That said, Walt is in many ways the poster child for the argument about state-provided healthcare and insurance. As for whether the PPACA would really help individuals in his situation and the rest of the country at large is the subject of intense debate.

[GazongaJoe]

Everyone dies

[Wispmage]

Regardless of your views on Walt, I think we can all agree that Todd is a twisted sadistic f***.

[Gamerforlife]

Regardless of your views on Walt, I think we can all agree that Todd is a twisted sadistic f***.

Twisted, but I wouldn't say sadistic. Jesse's torture served a purpose. It wasn't for fun. And he only killed Andrea because Jesse tried to escape. He made it quick and painless too. Todd is just an amoral, ends justify the means sort of a guy. He does have a certain fascination with death(when he's the one causing it), but I don't see a sadistic side to his character. Todd is actually the nicest psychopath you'll ever meet, which is why a lot of people enjoy his character. He's something of a contradiction in that he's so incredibly polite to everyone and fair (in his own screwed up way), but will murder someone without a second thought or an ounce of regret.

That's what I find interesting about Todd. In the crib scene, he's being so incredibly polite and respectful towards Skylar, even as he's threatening to kill her baby. That's the creepiest thing about todd...that's he nice.

[oxymoron]

Todd is a sociopath.

[Jrecee]

Okay, I'm going to post my stupid question. Really I should rewatch the episodes (and I will) but for now...

How has this hunt for Heisenberg become a nationwide story? My understanding was that all along, Hank was the only one on this case, eventually involving Gomez, but still keeping it a low-key operation, thus telling Huell not to speak to the dea agent who was guarding him. Pretty much following that scene, they chased Walt into the desert to track down his money, the one thing that could give them physical evidence of him being Heisenberg. As I recall, no call was made by either Hank or Gomez to report the events that transpired before the Nazis arrived. Hank and Gomez are then killed and buried. The money is taken except for one barrel. Walt returns home intent on getting his family into hiding. Why? Is he afraid of Jack and his crew? At this point there's no evidence left if he simply goes and hides the remaining barrel of money. There's Marie's word but not much else.

[Ziggy]

Hank was DEA. He went missing. Possibly dead. When a cop, FBI agent, DEA, etc are missing or dead, a massive hunt always happens. It is top priority. And it's not just one, but two agents (Gomez) so it's even more of a shit storm.

Maria knew a lot, she could have clued the DEA into whatever she knew about Walt from Hank. Also, the phone call Walt made when the cops were listening basically confirms everything. But proving crimes that Walt committed has nothing to do with finding him because of the disappearance of two DEA agents.

Walt wanted to take his family on the run / into hiding, yes, but not because he was afraid of Jack and his crew. It was because Hank and Gomez were dead, and he knew there would be fall out.

[RCBH928]

@Ack

First, I just would like to clear that committing adultery in my country does not give you a death sentence. Actually its very hard to get a death sentence even if you murdered some one. But I can see why you might be confused by the fact that I am allocated next to Saudia Arabia, which MIGHT give death sentence to those who commit adultery. None the less, I believe adultery can give the betrayed spouse a quick divorce with him/her getting the major benefit. Am I right? If its bad enough to break the marriage, I'd put it up there with drug dealing.

-I know he failed to act, but that still does not mean he did it. As for the drug dealers, I recognize that is murder I was just pointing out he was not murdering any one innocent. Those drug dealers most likely were going after him. I am not saying he never broke any laws, its just that he never hurt good people. Wasn't him offering to pay $80m to save Hank's life enough to prove this? Its not about the money, its about all the dangers he went through was going to go in thin air just to save that guy that was trying to arrest him and put him in jail.

-I can't go way back 5 years ago to remember how Jesse got into drugs, a drug addict is a drug addicted. Even worse, he got Walter in so much trouble and Walter always looked out for him. If he didn't snap on Walt things might have been going way different for both of them. Heck, even Hank might be still alive.

-I don't understand medical insurance in America, but I understand that there is the kind of insurance where someone's family would be repaid a good sum of money if a certain member of them has passed away. That should have been enough for Walt, but I guess he couldn't even afford that.

@Jrecee

I think his family just told them everything, they called the cops in the first place. Maria also added what she knows, and they probably searched Hank's garage to find all the files and documents so they figured it all out.


Todd is a sociopath I agree. Who serves you desert then kills your gf other than a sociopath.

[crux]

Todd is absolutely a psychopath. That he's "nice" yet commits such horrendous crimes without hesitation or remorse just further cements his sociopathic behavior. John Wayne Gacy was "nice" too.