Breaking Bad Season 3 Starts Tonight

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Ziggy587 wrote:I have no idea if Walt will live or die by the end of the finale, but my guess is that Walt and Jesse both wont die. One of them will live. That is my guess, at least.


My guess is they both die. Jesse will kill himself if he can, I imagine. Walt will likely go out guns blazing, as has been telegraphed all season and goes with the whole "Mr. Chips to Scarface" line that we've all heard Gilligan say at least a few times.

Those are my guesses, anyway. :lol:
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Is is bad that I'm happy Jesse is facing his karma? It seems like a lot of people wanted a happy ending for him. Truth is, Walt and him have been in this together since the beginning. They both have to pay for their sins. I like Jesse, but this is the consequences of the life he's lived. Breaking Bad doesn't pull any punches, much like Game of Thrones.

It's a shame Walt doesn't have some brilliant science plan to use on the Nazis. That's one thing we haven't seen this season, some crazy idea involving magnets, or explosive little bags or trains being robbed unknowingly. Would have been interesting to see Walt have one last crazy idea.

This was really Todd's episode. What an amazing little psychopath that character is. You guys need to watch Friday Night Lights. There's some fun parallels between Todd and Landry Clarke (also played by Jesse Plemons). I wonder if he'll be remembered now more for this role on Breaking Bad then his former claim to fame.
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Gamerforlife wrote:It's a shame Walt doesn't have some brilliant science plan to use on the Nazis. That's one thing we haven't seen this season, some crazy idea involving magnets, or explosive little bags or trains being robbed unknowingly. Would have been interesting to see Walt have one last crazy idea.


Well he did take the ricin from the house, so...
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Who says he doesn't have a plan? I'm expecting the return of fulminated mercury at the very least.
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The magnets were this season ... they just put so much time between airing the two halves of the season.

Also, I would think there is some plan going on ... but I think since this is also the end of the show ... Walt is at the end of the line.
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@Jrecee

I do not remember Walter hurting innocent people. He just gets back at criminals usually that are going to kill him so its more like self defense. Sure stealing and selling drugs is bad, but not as bad as having an affair. Remember the stealing and drugs does not hurt the family directly. Heck, a lot of families are surviving just fine with one of them either is stealing or dealing drugs in one way or another, some turn out to be politicians :lol:

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I like what is happening to Jesse the meth-head , Walter did a lot for him and whatever trouble Walter is in , is because he cared for Jesse or Jesse created it for him. He was alright the first few seasons . I just feel like what he is getting is too much, he became a gang's slave , literally .

I think no one can figure how the show will end , its going everywhere . One time he is handing himself over, another he leaves to get back at his company's co-founder, he tries to change his identity, he shakes his hands with the gang members, he wants to get back at them... its just going every where. Although looking at what happened for Jesse, I think the writers got no nice ending for Walter.

Personally , I want Walter to end up in a good status and everyone else hurt because he tried his best to help every one out there but no one ever helped Walt. He went into crime just to give his family a better life, and they were the first to stand against him. Sure he did it the wrong way, but at least he had good intentions.


One thing surprises me though, how come the actors, director, cameramen, editors, writers, etc .. no one ever leaks a series finale? Can you imagine any one of them with his family and friends and all of them are insisting that they would tell them what happens in the end and all of them are resisting.
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This is a very interesting story that relates to this past episode

http://www.thewrap.com/how-breaking-bad ... -cameo-too
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Wow, very interesting. I can tell you that since Gretchen's last appearance back in season 2, I have fully expected to see her again. I figured at the very least someone from early in the show would have to return to see the transformation that Walt has made, and sort of bring the shocked emotion that we as the audience have not had since we've only viewed the transformation gradually. The fact that it's a young kid that influenced that scene is suprising.
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RCBH928 wrote:@Jrecee

I do not remember Walter hurting innocent people.


He absolutely failed to intervene and/or knowingly set up situations where innocent people died.

Sure stealing and selling drugs is bad, but not as bad as having an affair


How do you figure?

I like what is happening to Jesse the meth-head


You know he's not been a meth-head on the show in an eternity, right?


he tried his best to help every one out there but no one ever helped Walt. He went into crime just to give his family a better life, and they were the first to stand against him. Sure he did it the wrong way, but at least he had good intentions.


If you think the motivations for what he did most seasons were benevolent, you are just as delusional about Walt's actions as he is. Family was a motivator that was in the mix, but there's a lot of pride, ego, and anger mixed into all of it that, clearly, was there from the start.
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I was surprised that the writers didn't build the story around the company Walt co-founded and Elliot and Gretchen . I figured the writers ditched the idea and thought they would take a different path. If they were every to come back for them to pick on their story, I imagined that it would take a whole season to tell the story not just the finale . Any way, we are still not sure they will be on the finale they were just shown on TV and something triggered Walt, so we will know what happens on Sunday. I hope this is not another Lost or Sopranos ending.

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1) Yes, but that does not mean he did it too. If you see a person dying and not help him, is that like killing him? I mean if death sentence was the punishment for murder, will you give some one the death sentence because he didn't do anything to help a dying human? If you see someone being mugged , and you didn't do anything about it, does that mean you are a robber too? its arguable , but to me its not the same thing.

2) I'd rather have my spouse selling drugs, than having affairs behind my back. What would you prefer ?

3) I didn't notice when did he last used meth, but he is walking the same path any way. Drug dealing, no degree, wasting money, betraying colleagues , no family life, uncontrolled actions, it is the same path a drug addict would walk. Compare that to Walt he does not even smoke, he is a chemistry genius, his intentions are to help his family, he did it(selling drugs) in the first place because he is old and doesn't have the money to treat himself. What was Jesse's reasons? He is young, he still didn't start a family, he is not ill, he doesn't need large sums of money. He did it just because of the money. That is my interpretation .

4) Yes...pride, ego , and anger is all there but let us assume that Walt never got cancer and he had enough money to secure his family's future . Will his pride, ego, and anger lead him to sell meth? I don't think so. I really think the story of Breaking Bad is about how a good person turned bad due to the society around him.

I think this comic here explains this idea very well:

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