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BoneSnapDeez wrote:

KalessinDB wrote:One thing that is definitely driving me a little crazy -- I need to look up a moves list. I usually like learning multiple different characters rather than really focusing on one, just because I enjoy the variety, but there are just SO MANY CHARACTERS. Granted, it's from oldschool era of gaming so it's not like the button presses are TOO crazy -- quarter circles, half circle backwards and forward, and shoryuken motion will cover most of them. But I'd like to know which characters have which.

This is what keeps me from playing fighting games in general. I hate memorizing all that shit. I picked a game off my shelf the other day, I think it was Dead or Alive 3, looked at the moves list, said "nope", and reshelved it.

"Too many buttons that do too much stuff" is something that keeps me away from modern games in general. I'm perfectly content with the most simplistic control schemes - platformers were you jump/attack, shmups with attack/special, and RPGs with confirm/cancel. Don't really need much else. Guess I'm a pretty lazy gamer.

The problem with 3D fighters is that a move list isn't like a 2D fighting game. With 2D fighting games, normal moves are mapped to a single button press. 3D fighting games almost exclusively are comprised of normal attacks, assigned to a direction and a button, making their move list seem monumental in comparison. You don't need to know all of them to be competent in a game. What IS important, is understanding a particular fighting games mechanics. Don't know that the parry system exists in Street Fighter III? You are screwed. Don't know the counter system in Dead or Alive? You are Screwed. Don't understand the, "isms," of Street Fighter Alpha 3? Screwed!

Once you have that down, you just need to know what is safe to do. You should know that wildly throwing Fierce Dragon Punch like a crazy person in Street Fighter IV is a bad idea and is not safe. That's pretty much it. We like to make it incredibly difficult sounding with frame advantages, Focus Attack Dash Cancels and Air Dashes, but in reality the game can be quite simple to pick up and play...it just helps to have another person there to play with.

noiseredux wrote:You can enjoy DOA games knowing just 3 buttons: attack, block, grab. Stop depriving yourself a great time. Play DOA2 if you have it. Now.

Yes play DOA2 now.

noiseredux wrote:My wife hates games w/ too many buttons. She gave up on TR Legend for that reason. But she loves DOA2 and is damn good at it.

My wife is a button masher. She can do very well in the Capcom VS games. I don't know how she does it. We were in Las Vegas one time, and I wanted to check out this arcade. She found the Marvel VS Capcom 2 cab and proceeded to play that. After she was about 1/2 way through the game, this Asian kid walks up and puts in a quarter. Kind of smug like too. It was weird.

Anyway, she proceeded to somehow dominate him. He was good, but couldn't get passed the button mashing she would do. He re-matched her like 5 times, and then got super pissed and slammed the buttons and walked off mumbling something. It was hilarious. She then beat the game. LOL. On one quarter.

pvt_awol wrote:

My wife is a button masher. She can do very well in the Capcom VS games. I don't know how she does it. We were in Las Vegas one time, and I wanted to check out this arcade. She found the Marvel VS Capcom 2 cab and proceeded to play that. After she was about 1/2 way through the game, this Asian kid walks up and puts in a quarter. Kind of smug like too. It was weird.

Anyway, she proceeded to somehow dominate him. He was good, but couldn't get passed the button mashing she would do. He re-matched her like 5 times, and then got super pissed and slammed the buttons and walked off mumbling something. It was hilarious. She then beat the game. LOL. On one quarter.

That story was my childhood in arcades. I would be around 10 years old and they would be in their late teens early twenties and challenge me. One guy tried to show off to his girlfriend in Tekken 2. I never liked tekken, butI picked the kangaroo and he laughed. Kicked his butt three games in a row and his girlfriend laughed at him.

Another guy I remember was in his twenties who walked up when I was playing Street Fighter III at the boss fight. He challenged me without asking, which was a dick move and picked Elena, because of her healing super. His friend kept yelling in my ear saying he was going to kick my ass if I beat his friend and how I didn't know what I was getting into because he had some special coin he won from some pinball machine or something ridiculous. Beat him and he got mad, spilling his styrofoam cup full of tokens and called me cheap. All I did was anti-air him when he jumped in...every time.

The only time I ever let someone win was during a game of Tekken 1 because a big group of guys came up and started pushing me around yelling and screaming and I was frightened to death. I was...I think 11 at the time and they were much older.

Those were the days. Arcades were a huge part of my gaming life when I was a child. I loved the atmosphere of playing a game, having someone eyeball you, see how you were playing and then ask to fight you. I remember getting my ass handed to me so many times, but always by the most humble of people. The loud mouthed guys always lost.

It wasn't only that though, it was just those moments where people started cheering and getting excited. My brothers and I were playing the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Arcade game and got to shredder and a bunch of people were crowded around us. We ran out of money and didn't beat it, but people were more than happy to come in after us and continue the fight. I really look back at those days with fondness.

I am old enough to remember when arcade machines had ashtrays bolted to them. Those were the days...

BoneSnapDeez wrote:

KalessinDB wrote:One thing that is definitely driving me a little crazy -- I need to look up a moves list. I usually like learning multiple different characters rather than really focusing on one, just because I enjoy the variety, but there are just SO MANY CHARACTERS. Granted, it's from oldschool era of gaming so it's not like the button presses are TOO crazy -- quarter circles, half circle backwards and forward, and shoryuken motion will cover most of them. But I'd like to know which characters have which.

This is what keeps me from playing fighting games in general. I hate memorizing all that shit. I picked a game off my shelf the other day, I think it was Dead or Alive 3, looked at the moves list, said "nope", and reshelved it.

Try dead or alive dimensions on the 3DS, it shows all the move sets on the bottom screen also as soon as you press one button it shows the next one to continue the combo.
DoA are really easy to get into, you can literally mash buttons and win.

I loving dimensions so far for the botton screen alone, i love to have all the moves available without pausing the game.

I think mortal kombat ultimate on the DS does this too.

prfsnl_gmr wrote:I am old enough to remember when arcade machines had ashtrays bolted to them. Those were the days...

Both of my Pachis have them, but I do not own a cab that has that.

fastbilly1 wrote:

prfsnl_gmr wrote:I am old enough to remember when arcade machines had ashtrays bolted to them. Those were the days...

Both of my Pachis have them, but I do not own a cab that has that.

Let me tell you...you haven't lived until you have beaten Bad Dudes with a random mustachioed and mulletted stranger smoking in your face.

Great arcade stories, Bogus!

prfsnl_gmr wrote:I am old enough to remember when arcade machines had ashtrays bolted to them. Those were the days...

WTF are you talking about? There were never any ash trays. The player 1 and 2 button were for balancing your cig on man.