Help on protein intake

[brunoafh]

Upon reading the above post I couldn't help but think how much veganism and especially vegetarianism are almost the exact opposite of the paleo diet.

I am a vegetarian and I have a buddy that does the paleo diet, and he's lectured me about the how carbs and grains are bad for you. He's even got this essay where he tries to prove that carbs (en masse) and starches are partially response for causing cancer.

[elmagicochrisg]

i hate websites like that.

and the fact they can't correctly define antigen makes the article scream CREDIBLE!!!

and i am being sarcastic.

Sigh, the scientist nazis are here. Yawn...

Ok, they restrict themselves to the more common blood type antigens and they try to explain things in layman's terms. This is not an article for 'scientists' but for 'normal' people. The explanation is good enough to explain what they wanted to explain.

"A blood type (also called a blood group) is a classification of blood based on the presence or absence of inherited antigenic substances on the surface of red blood cells (RBCs). These antigens may be proteins, carbohydrates, glycoproteins, or glycolipids, depending on the blood group system."

The above explains a lot why different types of food may have different effects on different people. I don't see why you have to dismiss the whole article just because their explanation of antigen is not up to your standards. I even think that this:

Diets based on the genetics of blood type are a good way to start. In fact, such diets start from a basis of what Paleolithic people ate, but take into account genetic changes that happened throughout human history. These, though, tend to miss the fact that we're too individual to determine how to eat based on only four categories.

Nonetheless, blood type diets are a great place to start. Basing your eating on blood type will almost certainly bring about significant benefits, including weight loss. This article gives only the broad outlines of such diets, but there is no better starting point to determine what diet is best for you: an individual like no other in the world.

is one of the most intelligent things I have read about diets in a long time. But hey, who am I, right?...

In all honesty, you guys can eat monkey dung for all I care. Some people take this thread far too seriously, and I for one am fed up with the level of arrogance / ignorance displayed in this thread...

And for once I'm not being sarcastic...

Have fun...

[dsheinem]

This is not an article for 'scientists' but for 'normal' people. The explanation is good enough.

I don't see why you have to dismiss the whole article just because their explanation of antigen is not up to your standards

I for one am fed up with the level of arrogance / ignorance displayed in this thread...

[final fight cd]

I don't see why you have to dismiss the whole article just because their explanation of antigen is not up to your standards.

since they can't define a basic term correctly, which is probably learned in elementary school biology, i have no faith that they are able to correctly read, comprehend, and interpret scientific literature.

[stickem]

dam, the guy just wanted to know about protein and working out and people had to go and geek up the thread...

[equalsign]

That was a decent read elmagicochrisg. I've heard about some of that before, but haven't seen it linked to blood types before. Not dismissing it, as I haven't ever looked into it. I happen to be blood type A, so according to the article I'm doing the right thing for my body diet wise . I'm a vegan for ethical reasons not dietary reasons, but you never know. That blood stuff may have had some sort of subconscious effect on me . I only ever had milk with cereal (can't stand the taste of the stuff plain) and have probably only had 2 dozen straight eggs in my life (that is, eggs that weren't mixed into something else like fried rice, cookies, ect). Maybe it's related.

Anyways, I think the point I was trying to make in my earlier post was that you can get protein from a variety of sources and that you shouldn't feel like you need to rely on a shake or the like. If you do use them, you shouldn't eat them to the exclusion of other foods that might have other essential vitamins and nutrients for whole body health. It is possible to eat normally, but replace items with high protein alternatives. Also, there isn't some magic food that makes you buff. I get plenty of protein and do a ton of lifting in my job, but I'm a stick. My little brother has tried all sorts of super high protein diets and he's a stick, even with some weight lifting. Focused, thoughtful, and educated weight training is a must if you're wanting to be buff. While it is possible that you could train at home and get buff, that just doesn't work for most people. Yeah, there are a bunch of crazy things you could do with handheld dumbbells to work every muscle in your body, but most people won't stick with that kind of workout. In what I have seen, most people who get ripped go to a gym.

Also, if I read your first post correctly you were wondering about amino acids and glutamine. Amino acids are the building blocks of protein. There's like 20 of them. Some are essential, but I don't really remember which ones. If you're intaking protein, you're intaking chains of amino acids. Which amino acids are present is the difference between "complete" and "incomplete" proteins, but I don't know a ton on that subject. Glutamine is one of the amino acids. I think it's popular with body builders. I think it's added to most protein powders.