The Walking Dead tv series

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Luke wrote:
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Governor was scared of attaining power and becoming the person he used to be. He was just trying to be a family man.
No he wasn't, and no he wasn't. He was/is trying to earn the trust of his new group to gain access of their arsenal. He's a loon hell bent on revenge and playing everyone like a piano.
no, that is not how they wrote it... he will do that now, but he was first just trying to start new with a new family. Then he stumbled upon the group. Then he tried to escape the group. For whom did he do his theatrics yelling and such when he killed Martinez? That was the first turning point. Martinez said he will lose them again. Then martinez tempted him with sharing the crown. That wasn't the governor trying to manipulate.
At the end he realized he either goes down with a sinking ship or takes over. In his mind circumstances are forcing his hand to keep him and his family alive. It was also telling that he finally used his gun to shoot a zombie instead of meleeing it to death like he has done all the others.
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If that is how you interpret it, fine by me.
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Luke wrote:If that is how you interpret it, fine by me.
To interpret it a different way would be incorrect and not the way the writers intended..
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Jmustang1968 wrote:Straight from the actor himself:

http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/11/24/walki ... ad-weight/
He says nothing about the writer's intent. He says something close to "I think he doesn't want to be a leader and have that responsibility, but at the same time he is a leader".

Maybe I'm using my powers of common sense knowing that the Governor would seek revenge. If the intent was to show a softer side of him, the writers failed miserably. I mean did you see the look on his face when the woman mentioned they owned an arsenal?
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Luke wrote:
Jmustang1968 wrote:Straight from the actor himself:

http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/11/24/walki ... ad-weight/
He says nothing about the writer's intent. He says something close to "I think he doesn't want to be a leader and have that responsibility, but at the same time he is a leader".

Maybe I'm using my powers of common sense knowing that the Governor would seek revenge. If the intent was to show a softer side of him, the writers failed miserably. I mean did you see the look on his face when the woman mentioned they owned an arsenal?
Did you read the entire thing? One question he explicitly talks about the writing and showing a softer side of the villain. He tried to make a transformation and had an internal struggle.
Of course we know the ends and his inevitable descent was predicted and given. The means however, showed him try to be good and a follower. He saved the dad, warmed up to the girl, found a new lover etc... The driving at night to escape was very telling. Once he returned from that drive, he then became the governor again and not Brian. He wasn't manipulative until that point.
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Psychopaths have their fans too :lol:
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I agree with JMustang, although, like Luke, I think they did a shit job of making it appear that way. Overall, I think they are just dragging the Governor for all he's worth, which really isn't working that well at this point.
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The governor is evil...period.

He went evil when he lost his family. He got a new family...and he's evil again. The governor is what he is. EVIL. And while I know some people hate me bringing up the comics, they took a HARD turn back in that direction with this episode and comic book governor had no shades of grey. He was just a bad man...period.

That's all these last two episodes have been about it seems. It was just a way to get him back to on track with where he was in the comics, which required them to undo all the stupid shit they did with him last season. That's how drastically they effed up his arc last season that it took two whole episodes this season focused completely on him just to set him up for the same series of events from the comics that many of us thought would happen last season

They have all the key elements from the books in place now. The tank was a dead giveaway. Someone from the show said we were getting a "Red Wedding" episode this season, and Kirkman said he was doing an episode that would play out exactly like the comic. If they are moving in the same direction as the books for the remainder of the season, there's gonna be some shocking shit that will have people talking about this show more than ever
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Speaking of the kawmicks I've noticed a pattern. They take the farm setting (which is like, what, 3 books max in the books?), and stretch a season out of it. They take the prison setting, and stretch two seasons out of it. So I wonder if that pattern means we're going to get three seasons out of the next segment, and who knows how many out of Alexandria (assuming the TV series persists).
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