Bill Cosby

[Flake]

@Jmustang1968

It's all good. Jp1 is someone with whom I've only ever had polite and cordial conversation with. If he says that he is disappointed that our impressions don't match, I take it to literally be that: We usually agree - and this time we don't.

[Jmustang1968]

Hair splitting, you are. You know what I was getting at...

[Flake]

Hair splitting, you are. You know what I was getting at...

No, really. There are people on this site that I have come to expect logical, reasoned, and respectful conversation from, even when they disagree. Jp1's on that list.

If the guy wanted to shame me, he would have been much more direct. It is possible to respect someone's opinion enough to be disappointed when their conclusion and yours don't meet. That's not a bash on that person though.

[jp1]

Hair splitting, you are. You know what I was getting at...

No, really. There are people on this site that I have come to expect logical, reasoned, and respectful conversation from, even when they disagree. Jp1's on that list.

If the guy wanted to shame me, he would have been much more direct. It is possible to respect someone's opinion enough to be disappointed when their conclusion and yours don't meet. That's not a bash on that person though.

Thanks Flake, that is quite literally what I meant. I'm glad you feel that way.

[Jmustang1968]

Hair splitting, you are. You know what I was getting at...

No, really. There are people on this site that I have come to expect logical, reasoned, and respectful conversation from, even when they disagree. Jp1's on that list.

If the guy wanted to shame me, he would have been much more direct. It is possible to respect someone's opinion enough to be disappointed when their conclusion and yours don't meet. That's not a bash on that person though.

That was at jp.

My first post was more in general not just at jp. As in several people kept saying you cant say he is guilty from accusations or just what others say. My point was that sure we can, we make those types of decisions and inferences all the time. Jp1 just happened to be the one to engage my first post.

[prfsnl_gmr]

You are misreading this quote.

Yes I did misread the quote. This is what happens on Friday after a week of sleep deprivation builds up.

I certainly understand that feeling.

I still do not agree that accusations or probabilities are equivalent to hard evidence in a trial. Even if such things are allowed in courts based on circumstantial instances, I do not agree with it personally. I find it incredibly hard to believe that with this many women claiming Mr. Cosby raped them via intoxication, that there isn't one shred of hard evidence to be found. If there is such a thing, I have not heard of it yet. Rather this situation comes across as a burn the witch character assassination media blitz, with a potential jack pot class act for plaintiffs.

They certainly are not equivalent. Your concerns go the weight that should be afforded to certain types of evidence. Certainly, physical evidence is drastically more peruasive than bald accusations and circumstantial evidence, but the latter two categories are, nonetheless, "evidence" capable of proving a person committed a crime.

[jp1]

Hair splitting, you are. You know what I was getting at...

No, really. There are people on this site that I have come to expect logical, reasoned, and respectful conversation from, even when they disagree. Jp1's on that list.

If the guy wanted to shame me, he would have been much more direct. It is possible to respect someone's opinion enough to be disappointed when their conclusion and yours don't meet. That's not a bash on that person though.

That was at jp.

My first post was more in general not just at jp. As in several people kept saying you cant say he is guilty from accusations or just what others say. My point was that sure we can, we make those types of decisions and inferences all the time. Jp1 just happened to be the one to engage my first post.

PM'd you on this, but in short, please don't ever assume that I mean to say "You can't say this." I don't presume to be superior to anyone here or feel entitled to chastise them. I was just having a discussion (not an argument) with peers. Peers whom I respect regardless of our difference in opinion. Honestly, however it came across...that was all it was.

[Jmustang1968]

Nah, I wasnt accusing that at all and this has gotten way skewed and blown out of proportion from what my post intended.

[jp1]

Nah, I wasnt accusing that at all and this has gotten way skewed and blown out of proportion from what my post intended.

Agreed. Back to the topic at hand...

I need to read up a bit before I can comment further though. Prfsnl_gmr is always coming with that lengthy knowledge drop.

[prfsnl_gmr]

Prfsnl_gmr is always coming with that lengthy knowledge drop.

Thanks! (This is consolation for me being waaaaay behind on my work today.)