What would you do with 4 months in Japan?

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So anyway if I were in Japan I'd probably do what I do here... Nothing.. Except I would not know the language either.. :x


Edit: I would take advantage of the internet for sure, them and South Korea= legit connection!
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greg wrote:Anyone who regards women as merely a hole to put his dick in will never truly be happy and content in life. Anyone who thinks that it's his privilege to screw Japanese women just because he's a foreigner is not only the same as above, but also a racist. I am sick of reading stuff like this on Internet forums who reduce Japanese woman to mere sexual objects and guys who say dumb shit like, "I'm gonna fuck me some Jap bitches, ruh-hurr!" Then they come over here, scrape the bottom of the barrel and find the girls who put out easy (and thus idiotically think that all Japanese women are like this), then they complain about retarded crap like, "Why's all dem Jap bitches gots them jungle pubes, ruh-hurrrrr?"

Nobody ever says, "I'm going to Canada. I'm gonna go screw as many Canadian chicks as possible!" Yet they say that about Japanese women. It's because they do not value Japanese women as human beings, and they treat them as inferiors and mere sexual objects to conquer.

About the Japanese fetish, I understand that. J-girls are very pretty and charming (I'll have to disagree with Pierrot, but at least he speaks from his own personal experience). However, you really need to know what you're getting into (I suggest reading The Modern Madame Butterfly to start).I will say that I did not marry my wife because she's Japanese. I married her because I had cultivated a strong relationship with her over many years and, of course, because I love her.

So do us serious foreigners and Japanese alike a favor and stay home. Japanese people get pretty pissed off at foreigners because of their rude and arrogant attitudes, walking all over the locals, pushing them around, disrespecting their culture, acting rowdy (especially with crap like the Yamanote Halloween parties held on trains in which locals are pushed around, intimidated, and prevented from commuting home in peace), stealing, damaging property, and slobbering all over the local girls and treating them as sexual objects. This is particularly worse in military towns. Meanwhile, people like me work hard to foster kinship and respect as ambassadors of our countries, only to have good will diminished when other guys rear their ugly, disrespectful heads. I'm an English teacher, and I've returned to this job after a 10 year break. I now see a lot of kids who are half Caucasian. I didn't see so much of this 10 years ago. It's not surprising that a lot of these kids are not good students, because they had some foreign father at one point who got some Japanese chick pregnant and fled the kid's life, leaving the mom stuck to raise the kid as a single mom. There's already too much brokenness in this world. The hippie "free love" crap has already destroyed American culture. As messed up as Japanese families can be, at least they don't have the divorce rate that Americans do.

Dude, chill out. You make Japan sound like some sacred holy place. It's just another country. Japanese people themselves walk on other Japanese people and disrespect each other. Just because they are Japanese doesn't make it any better. Disrespecting people is wrong no matter who is doing it and who you're doing it to. We are all human beings. I never act disrespectful in Japan, but I don't act disrespectful here in America either! Me being an American doesn't make it OK. You say "Japanese people hate it when foreigners act disrespectful" I am sure if those same people saw a Japanese person being disrespectful, they would have the same amount of disdain. It seems you put Japanese people on a pedestal. Trust me, I have met tons of Japanese assholes and straight up skank ass bitches in my time. They're not perfect.

As far as the whole pussy hunt thing, my Japanese friends go to America (specifically Hawaii) thinking the same thing. American girls are easy, American girls are sluts. Same with my friends in England. I don't get offended, I don't care. They could have an American pussy smorgasbord for all I care. If they can get a woman in bed, they deserve to reap the rewards. There is plenty to go around. They see stupid things like Girls Gone Wild and they assume all American girls are like that. They see things like Jackass and assume all Americans are like that, too. Ignorance is alive and well in Japan, as well as anywhere in the world. I recently took a trip to Australia with some Japanese friends. That was one of the only things on their mind, the nether regions of Aussie girls. Men are men, no matter where you are in the world. Why do you care so much? Don't waste your hate and anger on a bunch of kids on 4chan who have never even been to Japan, let alone outside their own state. I don't know how long you've been in Japan, but after a while you'll no longer give a shit about what other foreigners are doing in Japan. Just worry about your own shit and you'll be fine. I wasn't in my room getting angry about what idiots online talking about. I was outside, living it up as best I could. If I see some douchebag trying to get up on Japanese girls, I don't pay him mind. If he scores, props to him. If he strikes out, well, better luck tomorrow. There are enough slutty girls to justify his actions. I am sure he acts the same way in his home country. Just ignore them. If they got what it takes to score big and score often, they're gifted. Not going to waste time with hate and jealousy over something trivial. If you want to talk about people seeing women of other races as sexual objects to conquer, you won't have to look far to see there are many examples of Japanese doing this, too.

You're coming off as one of those holier-than-thou self-righteous gaijin. I wasn't too fond of those guys and avoided them like the plague. They feel insecure about being a foreigner and sticking out like a sore thumb, so they feel they have to prove to everyone that they are not the typical gaijin. They care more about these kinds of things than Japanese people do. None of my Japanese friends muster the effort to care about these things. It never even comes up. I apologize in advance if I am out of line and I mean no disrespect, but I think you have that insecurity I saw in a lot of fellow gaijin. I noticed also that the more far removed they were from Japanese or Asian culture growing up, the worse it is. The foreigners I did hang out with were Koreans and Chinese. None of them ever went on rants about ignorant foreigners. We minded out own business. It was only the Westerners who did that. Just an observation, not a judgment. You and I have two totally different experiences living in Japan. When people see you, they right away know you're a foreigner so they, in their ignorant mind, might treat you differently right off the bat. In my case, they don't know I'm a foreigner until I tell them. Many times it doesn't even come up and they're none the wiser, like going those onsens, lounges, etc with the big "Japanese Only" sign hanging above the door. Sometimes it works in my favor, sometimes it doesn't. The funny thing is, as an Asian-American, I've been discriminated against more often in my home country than in a foreign one. Go figure. I guess I'm not a 'serious foreigner' (whatever that means) since I don't care if these people are in Japan or not. It's their life and their choice.

As I mentioned earlier, it's all in the company you keep. The kind of people you hang out with greatly affects your experience. My first two years or so in Japan I hung out with a bunch of students who were studying English. It was good because my Japanese needed much improvement and we helped each other out. But after a while I realized "These people are fucking boring" So after I became more confident I looked for people who didn't care about learning foreigner languages. That was when the real experiences started. No more hanging out in coffee shops and school campuses talking about the nuances of English and Japanese. That shit got old, quick. Real quick. I needed to immerse myself much more deeply than hanging out with a bunch of eikaiwa freeloaders who were too cheap to spend their parent's money for lessons at one of those bullshit eikaiwa schools. I think these are the kinds of people that perriot was referring to when he said he'd rather smash his face into a brick wall than hear them.

When I moved to the countryside, Miyagi Prefecture, things got even better as far as immersion. Since I love cars and at that time, was addicted to street racing (it was something I did weekly back in America), I bought a used Skyline GTR and drove around looking for racer hangouts (usually conbini parking lots). It didn't take long to make friends up in the mountain roads where people often race. Running from the cops and getting into confrontations with groups from other regions was a weekly thing. Most of my friends in Miyagi and Iwate were and are a bunch of ne'er do-wells who never even finished high school, let alone gave a shit about college. They just worked and most accidentally had kids at 19 years old. These people don't care about how foreigners act, they've never even met or seen a foreigner in person until they met me. My point here is some Japanese get angry about arrogant, ignorant foreigners, but most don't give two shits. As a foreigner, the deeper you get into it, the less you'll care, too. You're lumping all Japanese people into one group saying that ALL of them care for trivial things such as the actions of foreigners.

Lastly, don't use that racial slur. I know you were speaking in character and giving an example, but being married to a Japanese woman and living in Japan doesn't give you a free pass to use it. I grew up in a Japanese-American community and know too many people who suffered in the camps and after the war, being belittled by that word. If you married a black woman, would you use the N-word? Not cool.

Anyhoo, thanks for reading. I kinda rambled and digressed a lot. Sorry!
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Very good read hashiriya... Even though it was a wall of text... :P
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The part that stood out to me is Japan has a prefecture named in honor of Pat Morita's most famous role.
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hashiriya1 wrote:I think these are the kinds of people that perriot was referring to when he said he'd rather smash his face into a brick wall than hear them.
Nah, I know the one's you're talking about, though. They're friendly enough, but I could never stomach them, even when I was happy about being in Japan. When I wasn't working and getting apartments comped, I was living in guest houses. I also hung out with some Kanagawa townies through coworkers. I generally met and was around all walks of life in Japan. (I chased a lot of cats.)

I, personally, heard a lot of complaints from Japanese people about foreigners not being proper ambassadors to their countries while in Japan. This is an extreme example, but one time while going through the station after some January Sumo with a bunch of drunk internationals, and running up the down escalator, like I often do, this old Japanese dude was ready to full-on brawl with one of the guys who was with me. All the while, the wives were scolding the Japanese girls who were with us to the point of tears. I think it's more of a Tokyo thing, though. (I was not a rowdy, I swear.)


I'd also agree that guys can be the same wherever they go, and I'll definitely agree that Japanese men are perverted freaks who mostly just think about bedding amazonian blondes with giant racks. I feel really bad for Japanese women, though. They have to deal enough with unwanted advances, spousal rape, and date rape without it really even being noticed or cared about. They don't really need aggressive foreigners adding to those problems. The babifying, and encouragement of docility in Japan is another thing that really goads me.

Oh, also: You kind of mentioned it, hash, but just to emphasize it, Japanese people are horrifyingly racist. For a long time I didn't really think anything of it, but after a while I started to actually get offended. Particularly by this one girl who would constantly insinuate or assume things about me as an American. You don't know what you don't know, I guess, but still.
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EvilRyu2099 wrote:Very good read hashiriya... Even though it was a wall of text... :P
Yeah, sorry, greg's rants were kind of getting annoying. I just went off. I try to keep posts as short as possible.

MrPopo wrote:The part that stood out to me is Japan has a prefecture named in honor of Pat Morita's most famous role.
:lol:

pierrot wrote:
Oh, also: You kind of mentioned it, hash, but just to emphasize it, Japanese people are horrifyingly racist. For a long time I didn't really think anything of it, but after a while I started to actually get offended. Particularly by this one girl who would constantly insinuate or assume things about me as an American. You don't know what you don't know, I guess, but still.

Yeah, totally. They don't even realize when they're being racist. Is it the product of living in a homogeneous society? That's what the "experts" say. Who knows. I never really let it get to me.

My girlfriend does that when she's mad at me. I think it's funny. Especially since I know she's a country bumpkin who doesn't really bother trying to learn American culture. She'll say "Because you're American you... blah blah" and I say "Because you're annoying, I'm going to GTFO of the house for a while!"


You kinda reminded me of this video:

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hashiriya wrote:My girlfriend does that when she's mad at me. I think it's funny. Especially since I know she's a country bumpkin who doesn't really bother trying to learn American culture. She'll say "Because you're American you... blah blah" and I say "Because you're annoying, I'm going to GTFO of the house for a while!"
Heh, she lives with you in the US, though, right? Actually, now that you mention bumpkins, I guess one of the reasons I never lost my shit over the stupid things Japanese people said to me is because they do it to their own all the time too. I really hate all the relentless bullying of fat people, gay people, people who won't give up their accents, etc, etc--

hashiriya wrote:You kinda reminded me of this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DYje57V_BY

Yeah, that's pretty much me. Although, I usually get the opposite: I hate McDonalds, and fast food in general; I eat a whole lot of salad; I love (good) sushi, nabe mono, soba, agedashi tofu, Korean, Indian, Mediterranean, Greek, etc. A lot of conversations go like, -'You're so healthy (/different); not like an American at all.' -'How'zat?' -'Well, most Americans eat hamburgers and hotdogs, and stuff.' -'Ummm--.'

Last I was there, I was boarding with a couple French guys, and one of them had been there a while so we would constantly bitch about Tokyo ('You're French, so you're a really good cook, right?' 'You're American, so you're really good at sports, right?') and the other one was interning, and I watched as he went through the same soul crushing despair the Japanese business world put me through. It was interesting. Other than that, the intern and I would talk about Street Fighter III, IV and other fighting games.
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Thanks Hashiriya and Pierrot for calming things down. Thanks also for the input all.

I guess now ive just gotta get him a list.

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Maybe some OSTs?

Is it worth sending him out for Radiant Silvergun?
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pierrot wrote: Yeah, that's pretty much me. Although, I usually get the opposite: I hate McDonalds, and fast food in general; I eat a whole lot of salad; I love (good) sushi, nabe mono, soba, agedashi tofu, Korean, Indian, Mediterranean, Greek, etc. A lot of conversations go like, -'You're so healthy (/different); not like an American at all.' -'How'zat?' -'Well, most Americans eat hamburgers and hotdogs, and stuff.' -'Ummm--.'

Last I was there, I was boarding with a couple French guys, and one of them had been there a while so we would constantly bitch about Tokyo ('You're French, so you're a really good cook, right?' 'You're American, so you're really good at sports, right?') and the other one was interning, and I watched as he went through the same soul crushing despair the Japanese business world put me through. It was interesting. Other than that, the intern and I would talk about Street Fighter III, IV and other fighting games.


Nice, I just ate nabe for dinner. It's so good. She just throws random stuff in there.


Well, at least French people have a positive stereotype. I often got the "You must own a gun because you're American" one. Not really much about American junkfood since I never really ate much of it while living there. Also, luckily for me, the inakamono I hung out with didn't even know any American stereotypes. Their whole world was Miyagi Prefecture.

chupon wrote: Is it worth sending him out for Radiant Silvergun?
It's fairly easy to find at retro game shops, so why the hell not.
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