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irixith wrote:Western society: "Sex is bad, think of the children, won't somebody PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!" A naked body (and god forbid a naked body with ANOTHER naked body) is more horrible than the foulest violence.

Weird part of the world we live in.
When you consider the social decay that often accompanies loose sexual morals, I can't say I see anything wrong with discrimination against that stuff.
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irixith wrote:Western society: "Sex is bad, think of the children, won't somebody PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!" A naked body (and god forbid a naked body with ANOTHER naked body) is more horrible than the foulest violence.

Weird part of the world we live in.
Sadly it's true, asking for pictures of a terrorist's mangled corpse is OK but showing a penis or a woman's pubic area is a sin.

Although I do agree with some MPAA ratings when it comes to sex and violence together, for example, A Serbian Film is NC-17 for Extreme aberrant sexual and violent content including language, Matador is NC-17 for aberrant sexuality including violence, etc. Now I agree with those ratings and that criteria.
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irixith wrote: Western society: "Sex is bad, think of the children, won't somebody PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!" A naked body (and god forbid a naked body with ANOTHER naked body) is more horrible than the foulest violence.

Weird part of the world we live in.
Well violence makes up a lot of human history. Hunting, wars, some sports, and even kids wrestling are all violent to different degrees. There isn't much hiding it, unless you want to live in under a rock.

They're two different things. Why not treat them differently?
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BoringSupreez wrote:When you consider the social decay that often accompanies loose sexual morals, I can't say I see anything wrong with discrimination against that stuff.
I will bite. What is this "social decay" that you speak of? Because allowing gay people to kiss in public didn't end our civilization.
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DinnerX wrote: Well violence makes up a lot of human history. Hunting, wars, some sports, and even kids wrestling are all violent to different degrees. There isn't much hiding it, unless you want to live in under a rock.
AND SEX DOESN'T????????????????????????
They're two different things. Why not treat them differently?
Cause one is normal, it doesn't hurt anyone (unless you are a moron and don't use protection, and you get STDs) and the other while it might be an instinct, it's one of those instincts we need to learn to control if we don't want to be animals.
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BoringSupreez wrote:When you consider the social decay that often accompanies loose sexual morals, I can't say I see anything wrong with discrimination against that stuff.
I will bite. What is this "social decay" that you speak of? Because allowing gay people to kiss in public didn't end our civilization.
The laziness, civil violence, and sense of entitlement that seems to pervade Europe these days (and not just Europe. It's getting to be more and more of a problem in North America too). They may not seem connected to what I was talking about, but one thing leads to another. Loose sexual morals lead to incomplete families, missing one of the parents. The gimped upbringing the children receive leads to other problems, like the ones I mentioned before. The worst behaved kids you'll see are often the ones who receive little discipline from their parents, and if a parent doesn't live at home, that's one less person keeping an eye on his behavior. Anyway, just look at the problems with rioting multiple European countries has had lately, over not getting the money they feel they deserve from the government. I think that qualifies as social decay.
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BoringSupreez wrote: The laziness, civil violence, and sense of entitlement that seems to pervade Europe these days (and not just Europe. It's getting to be more and more of a problem in North America too). They may not seem connected to what I was talking about, but one thing leads to another. Loose sexual morals lead to incomplete families, missing one of the parents. The gimped upbringing the children receive leads to other problems, like the ones I mentioned before. Just look at the problems with rioting multiple European countries has had lately, over not getting the money they feel they deserve from the government.

Ok first of all, America has way more single parent families, and that's cause many teenagers get pregnant (I honestly don't understand why the loose and way more sexually active teenagers we have know how to use a fucking condom and yours don't. Perhaps sexual education is a good idea after all), and keep the baby.

Many European families stay together, but don't get married cause the state provides benefits for single mothers. The father and mother of the children live together, never sleep with others, but just don't get married. We've discussed the legal benefits of marriage in other threads, but here there is the case of an economic benefit for not getting married.


And since I see you are talking about my country, do you even know what the fuck is going on?
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ZeroAX wrote:
BoringSupreez wrote: The laziness, civil violence, and sense of entitlement that seems to pervade Europe these days (and not just Europe. It's getting to be more and more of a problem in North America too). They may not seem connected to what I was talking about, but one thing leads to another. Loose sexual morals lead to incomplete families, missing one of the parents. The gimped upbringing the children receive leads to other problems, like the ones I mentioned before. Just look at the problems with rioting multiple European countries has had lately, over not getting the money they feel they deserve from the government.

Ok first of all, America has way more single parent families, and that's cause many teenagers get pregnant (I honestly don't understand why the loose and way more sexually active teenagers we have know how to use a fucking condom and yours don't. Perhaps sexual education is a good idea after all), and keep the baby.

Many European families stay together, but don't get married cause the state provides benefits for single mothers. The father and mother of the children live together, never sleep with others, but just don't get married. We've discussed the legal benefits of marriage in other threads, but here there is the case of an economic benefit for not getting married.


And since I see you are talking about my country, do you even know what the fuck is going on?
Going on in what respect? Just in general, or concerning Greece's debt problems that have been making the news the last year or so?
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irixith wrote:E = minimal cartoon, fantasy or mild violence
E10+ = more cartoon, fantasy or mild violence
T = violence
M = intense violence
AO = prolonged scenes of intense violence
So bacon topic. Shouldn't call of duty black ops be AO? How many torture scenes were in that game? They all seemed pretty intense and prolonged to me.

You guys are all forgetting that video games are still considered made for kids by society. In the U.S. that is.
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BoringSupreez wrote:The laziness, civil violence, and sense of entitlement that seems to pervade Europe these days
Really? Because I live here and I don't see any laziness, no violence and no more sense than entitlement than the rest of the world.
Loose sexual morals lead to incomplete families, missing one of the parents. The gimped upbringing the children receive leads to other problems, like the ones I mentioned before.
So...you those people who complain and manifest on the streets are there, not because of an economical crisis, not because corruption driving down a country, not because of controversial goverment bailouts or budget cuts, but because they only had a single parent.

And those evil single parents who apparently can't raise a child that doesn't turn out lazy and violent are not there for any other cause than allowing people to choose who they can and who they can't have sex with.

Sure.
The worst behaved kids you'll see are often the ones who receive little discipline from their parents, and if a parent doesn't live at home, that's one less person keeping an eye on his behavior.
There must be millions of children out there with a parent that doesn't live at home. Millions I say!

And, of course, choosing who you want to have sex with is to blame.

Anyway, just look at the problems with rioting multiple European countries has had lately, over not getting the money they feel they deserve from the government. I think that qualifies as social decay.
I....just....
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