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molotovwars wrote:If what you say is correct Mr. Popo, it certainly makes the article seem misleading.

I wonder if Gamestop will carry this game used or not?

They probably will. As far as I know Gamestop doesn't take pains to wipe save data before selling a game, so my guess is they'll offer you a few bucks for your used copy and sell them rather cheap. For some people not having to unlock everything is a bonus.

Shouldn't their translation typo history have done that to them eons ago?

Then again, could be worse. Capcomlish isn't all but a coined word unlike SNKlish.

MrPopo wrote:...and don't paint capcom as an evil company out to do harm to their consumers.

Sony already has that niche cornered anyway

MrPopo wrote:

brunoafh wrote:So tough shit for me?

Apparently. Look, if you don't like it then let capcom know. But don't paint it like this makes the game useless, and don't paint capcom as an evil company out to do harm to their consumers.

I didn't say the game was utterly useless, but after you've completed everything it is. I didn't paint Capcom as an evil company either, but I do think their heads are quite far up their asses.

To be honest this doesn't really bother me that much on a personal level, because I'm probably never going to have a 3DS, and on top of that, this game looks like total shit anyway.

brunoafh wrote:

MrPopo wrote:

brunoafh wrote:So tough shit for me?

Apparently. Look, if you don't like it then let capcom know. But don't paint it like this makes the game useless, and don't paint capcom as an evil company out to do harm to their consumers.

I didn't say the game was utterly useless, but after you've completed everything it is.

Even then, people will strive for high scores. The entire shmup industry is based around that.

MrPopo wrote:

dogman91 wrote:I rally don't blame publishers for wanting to do stuff like this. The used game industry takes a huge toll on the abilkty of a studio to fund their work. The closet analog in germs of budgets are movies, but those have a ridiculous tail on them. First ther's the theater sales. Then airliners. Then the premium movie channels. Then rentals. Then home sales. Woth the vast majority of games (especially console releases) you get two months to make your moneyy, and that's it. Services like steam end up helping both ends. First thry can't be resold, and second theyget a longer tail because the cost of having games stretching back decades is minimal, compared to retail. And even used game sales wouldn't be a huge problem, except that gamestop realised they can make far more money selling used games rather than new, and shifted their marketing to convice the greater public that you should play a game once and get rid of it.

As pointed out somewhere else in resale threads, some people can only afford to buy new games every now and then because they sell old ones they're done with. It would be interesting to know what the real net effect is once you account for cannabalized used sales and the money used on new games from turning in used stuff.

Here's a fun question. What if you de-solder the battery and re-solder it? Will it lose the save data and function like a new copy then?

ZenErik wrote:Here's a fun question. What if you de-solder the battery and re-solder it? Will it lose the save data and function like a new copy then?

DS game, so it will be flash memory.

Hobie-wan wrote:

ZenErik wrote:Here's a fun question. What if you de-solder the battery and re-solder it? Will it lose the save data and function like a new copy then?

DS game, so it will be flash memory.

Darn. :'( So much for that idea.

ZenErik wrote:Here's a fun question. What if you de-solder the battery and re-solder it? Will it lose the save data and function like a new copy then?

There's no battery; it's flash memory.

Hobie's point about people selling games to buy new ones.

Yes, this is a valid point. So let's run some numbers (all pulled out of my ass).

Let's say that customer A buys all his games new, at $60 a pop. In order to fund this habit when he finishes a game he sells it to Gamestop for $20. Gamestop then sells their used games to customer B for $40. And let's say that if customer B stopped buying used he'd have to buy fewer games in a year.

So now, let's do some math. Let's say that customer B buys 6 games in a year, at $40 a piece. So his game budget was $240. Customer A also bought those same 6 games in a year, at $60 a piece. When you figure that he sold each one for $20 then each game cost him $40. But if his finishing cash amount is $20 (selling the last game) then his game budget for the year has to be $260. So now let's say that someone went through and burned down every Gamestop in the country, so both customers had to buy their games at retail. Now customer A can only get 4 games in a year. Similarly, customer B can only get 4 games in a year. But now you have 8 games being bought at retail instead of 6. So that's more money in to the industry.

Yes, both customers now have purchased less games. But their total dollar investment into the purchase of video games is the same whether or not you can sell your game back to the store or can buy it cheaper used. At the end of the day your budget is $X. The difference is today you can get more games for your $X, but the consequence is that all the people purchasing your used copies (after all, if no one bought them Gamestop wouldn't buy them from you) aren't giving money to the developers.

And I welcome anyone who's dealt with Gamestop's trade-in and used game values to plug in the actual numbers and see how things work out in terms of how many new games are purchased today vs. in a world with no used game sales.