Geohot: guilty or not guilty?

[Hatta]

Concerning "begs the question", there's a difference between the evolution of language, and people misapplying technical terms. Just because my GF's mom calls her monitor a "computer" and her tower a "hard drive", and I understand what that means doesn't make it correct. Similarly, because someone uses "begs the question" to mean "raise the question" and people understand it, doesn't make it correct.

Oh, and this thread:

[AppleQueso]

There is probably a formula for the length of a racketboy thread vs how likely it is to have derailed.

I remember that Mosques thread that got derailed like 5 different times into various subjects.

[Niode]

No it's just wrong. I know plenty of people from the states and it annoys them too. Plus dsheinem backs me up on it. I think I'd rather take his word over yours. No offence. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for the evolution of language, but this just does not mean what people think it means. Same with 'irregardless' that one actually makes me shudder when I hear it.

How about instead of taking anyones "word for it" (another idiom by the way) you do some independent research from many sources. I will agree that there is debate on the usage of the phrase, but from everything I read "could care less" is used more in the US than "couldn't care less".

But the whole point of my remark was pretty much just jumping on you for using how enderfall wrote his thoughts against him and not their intent, which I am sure you plainly understood. Its a cheap method of attack, something lawyers do to twist words around ( another idiom, man we use a lot not even thinking about them). I know you're above that we have had discussions before.

Nah I corrected him for being wrong regarding the openness of mobile devices. Then corrected him again for not understanding what a jailbreak actually is. He mistakenly thought that a jailbreak on a phone was to allow network interoperability. The jailbreak itself allows the running of unsigned code on the device. This is what makes network interoperability possible, not the jailbreak itself.

The 'couldn't care less' thing was just a tangent. Not a way of 'attacking' the guy. I didn't attack the guy at all.

How about instead of taking anyones "word for it" (another idiom by the way) you do some independent research from many sources. I will agree that there is debate on the usage of the phrase, but from everything I read "could care less" is used more in the US than "couldn't care less".

Thank you for the information on what an idiom is. I am clearly not smart enough to know what one is. Thank you. I don't know how the hell I passed my degrees without knowing that one. Thanks again.

To me it just doesn't make sense. Perhaps if you were to say it to my face I wouldn't notice it. My brain would have just filled in the gap and I would have grasped the tone anyway had it not. On paper it looks stupid. It completely contradicts the statement before it. A quick google and the vast majority of hits agree with me. So I think I'm going to continue correcting people for now. I know that's not proper research technique (I should know) but I haven't got time or interest to write a fucking thesis about this shit on an internet forum.


Regarding derails. I shall create Niode's law: As a Racketboy.com forum discussion grows longer the probability of the thread staying on topic is 0.

[pepharytheworm]

Oh, and this thread:

Mission accomplished

[Ack]

[Curlypaul]

- "Literally" means actually. Stop using it for stuff that didn't actually happen.

This is one of my pet peeves. My head literally explodes when I someone uses that word wrong.

This is actually one of my pet hates too, especially in that particular cranium splattering context.

[flamepanther]

How about instead of taking anyones "word for it" (another idiom by the way) you do some independent research from many sources.

Unlike "I could care less," "take my word for it" has the same meaning literally as it does idiomatically: "accept (take)what I am saying (my word) as fact on this subject."

I will agree that there is debate on the usage of the phrase, but from everything I read "could care less" is used more in the US than "couldn't care less".

There are many things about which people are wrong more often than they are right. Common mistakes and misconceptions do not become correct merely by virtue of frequency.

[pepharytheworm]

There are many things about which people are wrong more often than they are right. Common mistakes and misconceptions do not become correct merely by virtue of frequency.

I am really sure everyone uses "Artificial" the correct way too and it never changed its meaning.

Awful is another great example of words changing because of use. "full of awe" somehow turned into something that is not.

Here are more great examples that defy logic.

Manufacture - Use to mean made by hand.

Brave - once was meant to describe cowards or depraved

Nice - ignorant

Counterfeit - perfect copy

[GSZX1337]

I think that's grammatically incorrect.

[jfrost]

- "Literally" means actually. Stop using it for stuff that didn't actually happen.

This is one of my pet peeves. My head literally explodes when I someone uses that word wrong.

Ironically, most people use the world "literally" figuratively.