Why hate on Gamecube and Wii?

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J T wrote:Does the Gamecube get hate? I haven't noticed that. At least not recently. Maybe back when it was compared directly with PS2 and Xbox.
Yeah, about six years ago the Gamecube got a lot of flak, primarily because it "wasn't hardcore enough," "was too kiddy," "didn't play DVDs," etc. Two of those are the same crap we've been hearing people spout about Nintendo for a while, and they're both remnants of old Sega ad campaigns.
That's not the only reason. Part of it was that the Gamecube was rather a disappointment after the awesomeness of the SNES and N64. And it missed out on a lot of good multiplatform games that only Xbox and PS2 got, especially later in the generation. Examples: Burnout 3, Burnout Revenge, Black, Timeplitters: Future Perfect, Star Wars Battlefront, Star Wars Battlefront 2, Max Payne, Mercenaries, Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance, etc. It didn't have online play, making the Ghost Recon games severely handicapped on the system. And Splinter Cell games were always gimped on the GCN, partly due to no online play and partly due to the controller with not enough buttons.
I like the GCN. But it just didn't live up to standards set by previous Nintendo systems.
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BoringSupreez wrote:
Ack wrote:
J T wrote:Does the Gamecube get hate? I haven't noticed that. At least not recently. Maybe back when it was compared directly with PS2 and Xbox.
Yeah, about six years ago the Gamecube got a lot of flak, primarily because it "wasn't hardcore enough," "was too kiddy," "didn't play DVDs," etc. Two of those are the same crap we've been hearing people spout about Nintendo for a while, and they're both remnants of old Sega ad campaigns.
That's not the only reason. Part of it was that the Gamecube was rather a disappointment after the awesomeness of the SNES and N64. And it missed out on a lot of good multiplatform games that only Xbox and PS2 got, especially later in the generation. Examples: Burnout 3, Burnout Revenge, Black, Timeplitters: Future Perfect, Star Wars Battlefront, Star Wars Battlefront 2, Max Payne, Mercenaries, Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance, etc. It didn't have online play, making the Ghost Recon games severely handicapped on the system. And Splinter Cell games were always gimped on the GCN, partly due to no online play and partly due to the controller with not enough buttons.
I like the GCN. But it just didn't live up to standards set by previous Nintendo systems.
I'd argue that the Gamecube was considered the third major disappointment in a string of home console releases put out by Nintendo, after the Virtual Boy and Nintendo 64. Let's face it, the N64 is a quality console, but it did not have the titles that so many folks seemed to be looking for at the time, especially for fans of Fighters, RPGs, and Survival Horror, all three of which were some of the driving forces behind the PlayStation becoming so popular.

And Gamecube felt like more of the same. Instead of Nintendo going with the CD in the 32/64-bit era, they went with cartridges. In the next generation they don't bother with DVDs(a major selling point and part of the reason most of us bought our PS2s), they go for mini-discs. They also don't feature all the same-old cookie cutter games that seem to sell so well. And for their innovation and differences, they get blasted or copied. In general, I think the public really just wants the same boring thing over and over again, and instead Nintendo gives them something unique, and folks just don't know what to do with it. But then again, some folks argue Nintendo has just been giving the same boring franchises over and over again, so perhaps we're all just a bunch of idiots.

Either way, I don't currently own a Gamecube, but I've been considering buying another one for a while.
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BoringSupreez wrote:Examples: Burnout 3, Burnout Revenge, Black, Timeplitters: Future Perfect, Star Wars Battlefront, Star Wars Battlefront 2, Max Payne, Mercenaries, Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance, etc.
It has Future Perfect. It just so happens to be one of my favourite games. The only Timesplitters that was not on the cube was the first one, which was PS2 exclusive.
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t0yrobo wrote:The 'hardcore gamers' that hate on the Wii an gamecube are simply the wrong kind of hardcore gamers.
Exactly, the kind of people who love Halo and CoD and claim to be hardcore but have never heard of things like Punch Out, JSR, Killer7, Beyond Good and Evil never mind sat down and mastered a schump or a 2D fighter and will sadly never allow themselves those pleasures
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Yeah, being a hardcore gamer doesn't mean you play big budget, super graphical, shooting games. IMO, it means you are an experienced video game player who spends most of your leisure time playing them. And the experienced ones know that the Wii and (especially) the gamecube are very underrated. They have some of the best games ever made.
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I feel like the phrase "hardcore gamer" has now become synonymous with "latest FPS gamer."
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benderx wrote:Too many accessories for both Gamecube and Wii.
Gamecube Acessories list:
Wireless Controller
Link to a GBA
GB Player
Steering Wheel
Dancemat


What else is there?

Also, I love my gamecube, and it has loved be back since I got it about 7 years ago

BTW, if anyone needs a GCN steering wheel, I have one inbox and un-used on my trade list. It's the Intec one that's also compatible with XBox and PS2. It has pedals as well. I think GCN steering wheels are awesome, but sadly I need to find a more compact model, as my little apartment doesn't really have the space for this hardcore bastard.
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Gamers know about all sorts of games not just fps on the xbox 360. So all I have to say to those so called hardcore gamers is "All your base are belong to us"
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Gnashvar wrote:Gamers know about all sorts of games not just fps on the xbox 360. So all I have to say to those so called hardcore gamers is "All your base are belong to us"
QFT! FTW!
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noiseredux wrote:
Gnashvar wrote:Gamers know about all sorts of games not just fps on the xbox 360. So all I have to say to those so called hardcore gamers is "All your base are belong to us"
QFT! FTW!
I still read that as "Quit fucking talking! Fuck the what!"
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