Egg yolks - Medical pop Science or Historical Fact ?

[MrPopo]

No, he's not a medical doctor. If he was then he wouldn't be doing NRT, now would he? He'd be treating symptoms with drugs.

Yes, because no doctor actually wants to know why something occurs.

And what's wrong with snake oil (I'm honestly asking - I've never taken it - wasn't aware that he sells it).

Either you're being facetious or you aren't aware that "snake oil" is a term referring to salesmen who hype up the miraculous properties of some substance (the titular snake oil) which is actually just a placebo (or even harmful) in order to make a lot of money off of rubes.

Why keep a closed mind? If you're not even willing to consider the possibility, then that's your problem. Nutrition Response Testing stemmed from chiropractors, don't hate on it just because you don't know what it is. My personal experience with it, and current health, is all the proof I need to know for myself.

Personal experience is not scientific evidence. The placebo effect is VERY well documented. If you go to "alternative medicine" expecting it to work and it does then there's a decent chance it's just the placebo effect. Show me some double blind studies for NRT and now we're getting somewhere.

And please be careful if you happen to want to Google NRT or Muscle Response Kinesiological Testing. There's many haters that state false information just because they don't understand it.

Just because they don't understand? So if they understood then they'd stop hating on it? Then there should be no reason you wouldn't want to explain it to a skeptic. If you explain it we'd stop hating on it. Or is it that they hate on it because the basis behind it is very hand wavy? So they hate because they DO understand?

To be clear, until this thread I've never heard of NRT, I haven't clicked any links in the thread (except that cute picture of the organs), and I still haven't googled any information on it. So here's your chance to try and explain how and why it works.

[Hatta]

No, he's not a medical doctor. If he was then he wouldn't be doing NRT, now would he?

You said a mouthful there. You know what they call alternative medicine that works? Medicine.

And what's wrong with snake oil (I'm honestly asking - I've never taken it - wasn't aware that he sells it).

I meant snake oil metaphorically.

If it's full of shit, then I have crazy mental problems.

That's more common than you think. People are really, really good at self deception, which is why we have science. If it can't be shown to work in repeatable controlled studies, it's not real.

That said, if you have any peer reviewed scientific publications demonstrating the efficacy of this treatment, I'd be very interested to see it.

[Luke]

Did someone just cite a report about nutrition from a group of chiropractors?


Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha!

[elmagicochrisg]

Yeah well...

Diabetes and allergies are booming, so we should just continue as we are I guess...

No need to doubt if what we eat is good or bad...

It's funny how something like milk and cereal is promoted as a healthy start of the day. Grains, sugar and milk...

[AppleQueso]

I have no idea what's being discussed in here so I'm going to make a bacon sandwich

[MrPopo]

Yeah well...

Diabetes and allergies are booming, so we should just continue as we are I guess...

No need to doubt if what we eat is good or bad...

It's funny how something like milk and cereal is promoted as a healthy start of the day. Grains, sugar and milk...

It's funny how we're not saying that what we do now is good. We're saying that the new proposal needs to have some hard science behind it before we consider it better.

[YoshiEgg25]

No, he's not a medical doctor. If he was then he wouldn't be doing NRT, now would he? He'd be treating symptoms with drugs.

Yes, because no doctor actually wants to know why something occurs.

That's what scientists are for!

[elmagicochrisg]

Yeah well...

Diabetes and allergies are booming, so we should just continue as we are I guess...

No need to doubt if what we eat is good or bad...

It's funny how something like milk and cereal is promoted as a healthy start of the day. Grains, sugar and milk...

It's funny how we're not saying that what we do now is good. We're saying that the new proposal needs to have some hard science behind it before we consider it better.

Then it's about time you start educating yourself. Read a lot of stuff, and combine that with common sense. Search why milk is bad. Search why grains are bad. Search Paleo diet and see what they have to say and why. Search blood type diet and see what they have to say and why. Search allergies. Don't just read one article, read many of them. Keep an open mind and learn how to separate facts, fiction and possibilities through common sense and deduction...

Keep in mind that not everything is done for the good of men, but for the good of those who make money on things. Like milk, medication, grains, petfood, whatever...

And if you're up to it, experiment on yourself. Placebo can be strong, but it has its limits. You don't always need numbers to believe something...

[MrPopo]

Then it's about time you start educating yourself. Read a lot of stuff, and combine that with common sense. Search why milk is bad. Search why grains are bad. Search Paleo diet and see what they have to say and why. Search blood type diet and see what they have to say and why. Search allergies. Don't just read one article, read many of them. Keep an open mind and learn how to separate facts, fiction and possibilities through common sense and deduction...

Common sense is not to be trusted. And I do understand that we eat various things that we did not eat thousands of years ago. Our systems are not optimized to handle them. Hell, we eat a lot of things which have evolved to be specifically unpalatable, like hot peppers. At the same time, we're also living much longer than we used to and we're seeing the breakdown of the body that didn't use to occur. Just because we've outpaced evolution doesn't mean what we're doing is BAD. Give me controlled double blind studies that show that diet X is better than diet Y. If you don't then I have no reason to switch from what I'm doing and what seems to be working for me. I don't believe it's the best, but it seems to be good enough.

Keep in mind that not everything is done for the good of men, but for the good of those who make money on things. Like milk, medication, grains, whatever...

I am shocked that this would be the case. SHOCKED.

And if you're up to it, experiment on yourself. Placebo can be strong, but it has its limits. You don't always need numbers to believe something...

Yes, you do. And while placebo does have its limits you'd be surprised to see just how high those limits can be.

There is nothing stronger than cold hard facts for swaying an argument. A large portion of the physics community was not convinced by Einstein's relativity until they had experimental evidence for it, even though they could find no fault in his equations. I keep seeing various ways to improve the body by doing things in a different way, but I never see any good studies to demonstrate that the new way is better. It seems fishy to me.

[Luke]

^You guys are nuts (which are good for you now).

Nutritionists usually don't know squat, maybe even less than chiropractors. Healthy foods are cyclical. Ten years ago Margarine is better for you than butter, now butter is better for you. Fatty foods are awful for you, but the Atkin's diet will make you healthy and slim. Fresh fish is great for you, but watch out for that nasty mercury...It goes on and on. But fast food has always shown to be bad for you, but small portions and exercise have always been known to keep people in shape.