Games the ESRB/PEGI/CERO etc. rated wrong

[irixith]

A game with the sole purpose of beating the shit out each other is "violence", plain and simple. In Smash Bros, you even get to enhance the beating with hammers, guns and other items. There is no other point. Zelda is an action game, or action/rpg if you're in that camp. Defeating monsters is part of the gameplay, but for the most part they just disappear in a puff of smoke when they're "killed", and that's not the focus of the game -- the adventure is.

I dunno, I feel like it's pointless trying to debate it. While it's obviously a subjective rating system, for the most part it seems fairly clear and simple why games are rated what they are.

[BoringSupreez]

Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory: I don't think it deserved the Strong Language rating it got. I've played games with worse cussing that didn't get that rating.

Final Fantasy VII: How the heck this game got the Mild Language rating, I'll never know. That black guy with the gun for a hand throws around the s-word pretty often for just "mild" language. This is the game that first comes to mind when I said that Chaos Theory didn't deserve the Strong Language rating.

Ocarina of Time: Like others have said, it has too much blood and violence for the E rating. I have one of the early gray carts, where nothing had been changed yet.

Metal Gear Solid (PS1 version only): Didn't deserve Mature Sexual Themes. This was fixed in The Twin Snakes, when they changed the rating to the milder Suggestive Themes.

Max Payne: Considering how much prostitutes, sex, and drugs are mentioned in the game, I'm surprised that it got away without a Suggestive Themes or Drug Reference rating. The ESRB just seemed to be a lot less strict before GTA 3.

[AppleQueso]

A game with the sole purpose of beating the shit out each other is "violence", plain and simple. In Smash Bros, you even get to enhance the beating with hammers, guns and other items. There is no other point. Zelda is an action game, or action/rpg if you're in that camp. Defeating monsters is part of the gameplay, but for the most part they just disappear in a puff of smoke when they're "killed", and that's not the focus of the game -- the adventure is.

I dunno, I feel like it's pointless trying to debate it. While it's obviously a subjective rating system, for the most part it seems fairly clear and simple why games are rated what they are.

I'm only personally somewhat bothered by it because the original Smash Bros. got an E rating.

Final Fantasy VII: How the heck this game got the Mild Language rating, I'll never know. That black guy with the gun for a hand throws around the s-word pretty often for just "mild" language. This is the game that first comes to mind when I said that Chaos Theory didn't deserve the Strong Language rating.

Thing is, the majority of the swears in FFVII are censored. "Sh^t", etc.

[Erik_Twice]

A game with the sole purpose of beating the shit out each other is "violence", plain and simple.

Yeah, the point is, that many other games are as violent and they don't have a T rating. We are not arguing if it's violent or not, we are arguing if it's "violent" or "cartoony violence".

Martial sports are also pretty violent by definition and we don't think they are innapropiate for children.

[ZeroAX]

Also, the demonization of sex and nudity is quite disgusting.

Blame this one on western society.

What?

[irixith]

Also, the demonization of sex and nudity is quite disgusting.

Blame this one on western society.

What?

Western society: "Sex is bad, think of the children, won't somebody PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!" A naked body (and god forbid a naked body with ANOTHER naked body) is more horrible than the foulest violence.

Weird part of the world we live in.

[ZeroAX]

Western society: "Sex is bad, think of the children, won't somebody PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!" A naked body (and god forbid a naked body with ANOTHER naked body) is more horrible than the foulest violence.

Weird part of the world we live in.

And I repeat, what?

Europe is quite the opposite. Sex as much as you want, it's natural, but violence? No no no no no no. Germany bans a lot of violent games, yet lets games like Singles (a sim clone with an emphasis on sex) be released. France is the Mecca of sexualised comics, cartoons and games, and Greece....well if you've ever seen an ancient Greek comedy, our humor remains the same (to those who haven't seen one, we either make fun of politics, or sex....or both at the same time )

And naturally since I was born and raised in this culture I'm going to agree with it.

[isiolia]

Western society: "Sex is bad, think of the children, won't somebody PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!" A naked body (and god forbid a naked body with ANOTHER naked body) is more horrible than the foulest violence.

Weird part of the world we live in.

And I repeat, what?

Europe is quite the opposite. Sex as much as you want, it's natural, but violence? No no no no no no. Germany bans a lot of violent games, yet lets games like Singles (a sim clone with an emphasis on sex) be released. France is the Mecca of sexualised comics, cartoons and games, and Greece....well if you've ever seen an ancient Greek comedy, our humor remains the same (to those who haven't seen one, we either make fun of politics, or sex....or both at the same time )

And naturally since I was born and raised in this culture I'm going to agree with it.

"Western society" is probably a bad phrasing, since that includes EU nations.

[AppleQueso]

go me for assuming that EU cultures weren't actually too far removed from the US's

[ZeroAX]

go me for assuming that EU cultures weren't actually too far removed from the US's

loooooooooooooool. As someone who has lived in both continents, you have NO idea how different they are. Then again most EU countries have different cultures between them as well.