Games that just wouldn't be made in the modern game industry

[Lord_Santa]

such as?
do note I clarify when stating opinions, instead of typing it trying to make it sound like a fact

You know why it wasn't phrased like an opinion? Because I wasn't issuing an opinion.

And you "try to make opinions sound like facts" very often hence my comment. If you want to play the subjective card remember that it applies to you as well.

For example:
"you will soon realize that they are great games"
Isn't that an opinion?

touché

only problem is that writing maps, typing questions and taking notes is considered a "standard" in cRPG's which are considered "retro"

Nobody contested that they were commonplace, what we quesiton is that they are good mechanics.

and I for one love it, hence we can agree to disagree

[MrPopo]

Santa, you should consider picking up a DS and the Etrian Odyssey games. They're dungeon crawlers that have you map out on the touch screen and can be punishingly difficult if you don't plan out your party well.

[Lord_Santa]

Santa, you should consider picking up a DS and the Etrian Odyssey games. They're dungeon crawlers that have you map out on the touch screen and can be punishingly difficult if you don't plan out your party well.

I got rid of my DS mere months ago, but been missing it ever since =/

I'm waiting for the 3DS to launch so that DSL will lower in price

thanks for the suggestion, though

I knew there were some obscure titles on the DS I was missing out on... =/

[MrPopo]

There's also The Dark Tower, which is based heavily off of Wizardy, including the classes, methods of advancement, and it even has a retro mode where the music and graphics look like Wizardry I.

[AmishSamurai]

To be fair a game can be very very hard, and still fun. Donkey Kong Country Returns manages that. You will die a lot, but lives are so easy to get, the game saves automatically constantly, and the game over screen doesn't mean you lost hours of your life.

Many old games used cheap tricks, like no saving your game, or limited lives, to get you to insert more credits in the Arcade machine, or for their 10 level game to last longer. Some did it while providing a fun game.

Though these days I just don't have the time to be playing these games, so after a couple of tries of playing Earthworm Jim and Alladin till the end, I just gave up on those games, cause I don't have the time to be playing the same stuff again and again, only to run out of time once I reach the part I haven't beaten yet.

This. There's some games, like beat-em-ups and shumps where I'm perfectly okay with not having save files. But for the most part I guess I've been spoiled by them, and expect to be able to take a game at my own pace. If that doesn't make me a real gamer, whatever.

[Erik_Twice]

and I for one love it, hence we can agree to disagree

Seems fine to me

@MrPopo

A note, the game is called "The Dark Spire" not the Dark Tower.

[MrPopo]

and I for one love it, hence we can agree to disagree

Seems fine to me

@MrPopo

A note, the game is called "The Dark Spire" not the Dark Tower.

Wow, I failed hardcore.

[Erik_Twice]

Wow, I failed hardcore.

I see what you did there

Probably not but I feel smarter that way!

[Flodder450]

Did you guys consider that a certain game's impact in the past on other games,might not have occured (because the game wasnt released back then but now) ?