Coronavirus pandemic - how are you affected?

[PretentiousHipster]

You could always take the Cuban or Chinese vaccine instead. Big pharma didn't make those, so profits weren't a priority!

Although in all seriousness I would have been fine with taking one of those instead too.

[RCBH928]

I am starting to think this COVID19 is just another flu, something still confusing me is some countries are living to their fullest meanwhile others are saying they are in a "pandamic" . Either way I can not argue with doctors and scientist, if they say its dangerous and lethal and I have to take the vaccine... I'll take it. Actually I did take the Pfizer.

@prfsl_gmr

Good arguement, but I think people do not worry about consuming food as much as they worry about injecting something in them called mRNA that has been on the market for only some one months. One scary thought is that in history there were many drug withdrawals from the market to a side-effects that arouse after longer terms of usage even after FDA approval.

@PretentiousHipster

I wouldn't trust a Cuban vaccine, and I am sure China want to play a role in the big pharma game.

[PretentiousHipster]

May I ask why in regards to the Cuban vaccine? They've sent doctors to 40 countries to help for covid, and they even made lung cancer vaccine that the Americans are studying and although the results aren't final they are seeing its effectiveness.

[marurun]

Let’s keep in mind that vaccines are typically not big profit centers. Pfizer and Moderna are outliers, owing to governments buying up lots and demand being much more predictable owing to a worldwide pandemic. But flu vaccines? Reliable but not big bucks. Regular childhood vaccines? Not big bucks. Part of the profitability of COVID vaccines is deliberate incentive to get them made. In the US funding for essential research is way down, so profit motive is the only remaining tool to push for new medical discoveries and development of new medicines and vaccines. It strikes me that most of the folks who rail against the profit motive behind vaccines are also the sort who want to limit public funding of the kind of basic research that underlies medical discoveries.

For those wanting to compare COVID to the flu, we have ideas about annual flu deaths because of years and years of exposure, COVID is still new, but it is estimated to have a 10x mortality rate. Also, COVID is more likely to do harm of the sort that can impact folks the rest of their lives and shorten lives. Stuff like making folks more susceptible to strokes and leaving neurological deficiencies. So surviving COVID is t as easy as “I got over it. I’m fine.”

So, COVID is possibly 10x more fatal than the flu and leaves some survivors damaged for the rest of their lives.

[ElkinFencer10]

So, COVID is possibly 10x more fatal than the flu and leaves some survivors damaged for the rest of their lives.

A buddy of mine who's 25 and healthy and ran track all throughout high school and college go COVID a year ago. He spent a month in the ICU and still can't go up a flight of stairs without being out of breath from all the scarring on his lungs from the virus. This is not a fucking flu.

[Gucci]

Mentioned this in the happy/mad thread: I went back to the office this past week for the first time since March 13, 2020. They’ve had a skeleton crew since June of last year but not the full office.

I’m on a flex schedule where I work from home Monday and Friday and in the office Tuesday to Thursday. I can do my job from home exclusively but the CEO wants presence in the offices across the board.

I’m glad to be back in some capacity to be honest. Cool to see my coworkers in person again. Bullshitting around the office “water cooler” and such.

[marurun]

I’m glad my entire department at work is vaccinated. Apparently we are on an honor system to wear masks, and you know that people aren’t going to be honest. Honor systems only work when they have some kind of external consequences attached. I mean, COVID is a helluva consequence, but that seems to lack proper motivational power for far too many people. We will be working in satellite offices until they can confirm the finicky separate unit our office space is on and running properly and keeping air moving in and through from the outside.

[Gucci]

I have my microchip (get it?) but a couple of people have not been chipped in the office yet (one is allergic to some of the ingredients and the other hasn’t had the time), so I wear a mask when I step out of the office. I mean I would still want to wear a mask anyway. I gotta hide my ugly mug.

[RCBH928]

Image of last night game of the football Euro Final between England and Italy. Meanwhile there are still businesse doing remote work and countries closing down. Whats going on here?





@PretentiousHipster

I don't trust Cuban medicine. They are a 3rd world country or worse as far as I am concerned. They are isolated and communist. They do not even have high speed internet. I rather use something from the modern high tech. world like USA-Germany-France-UK. I am not going to be taking medicines made in North Korea, Vietnam, or Bangladesh for example.

The Cuban vaccine could be the best out there, and their scientist might be the brightest ones, but its just too much of a risk and I rather play it safe.

@Marurun

I am all for investing in research but I know those capitalists are a greedy scum I am sure most of the money is going into their pockets. Just look at how expensive health care is in USA vs other parts of the world. Capitalism is nice in some ways but its not the answer always. Unlike gadgets and cars, health care is a human right I believe and therefor should be government regulated and not turn into a commercial product. I would say funding should come from tax money and a reasonable profit on the price of medicine to go back into research. Win-Win I guess. just my 2 cents.

[marurun]

Cuba actually has quite a strong history in medicine. As long as a vaccine is properly tested and vetted I don’t care where it came from. China’s vaccine has had questionable vetting and Russia has had production quality issues, but then, there’s a US lab that was tapped to produce vaccines that’s also been shut down for months for quality and production issues. Trust or don’t trust science based on the science itself, not your own political or cultural biases, please.