Kickstarter "Tropes vs Women in Videogames"

[BoneSnapDeez]

There is no "stolen" footage. This is called Fair Use. We've been over this 100 times. This sort of thing is common in YouTube videos, it only became an issue to (certain) people once Anita started doing it.

Could/should she credit her sources better? Yes, that would be nice. But is it illegal and does it violate the YouTube TOS? Clearly not.

[ZeroAX]

There is no "stolen" footage. This is called Fair Use. We've been over this 100 times. This sort of thing is common in YouTube videos, it only became an issue to (certain) people once Anita started doing it.

Could/should she credit her sources better? Yes, that would be nice. But is it illegal and does it violate the YouTube TOS? Clearly not.

I agree, that's why I said this fact can't change your opinion on what she is saying.

But I don't understand why she didn't play all the games she talks about. It just makes her look stupid when she gets the context of the game wrong.

[BoneSnapDeez]

I'm assuming because it would take an eternity? Look at how long it takes someone like James Rolfe to create a video about a 30 minute NES game.

I'm not entirely sure what context she got wrong, but I also rarely play current gen games which seems to be much of her focus.

[ZeroAX]

I'm assuming because it would take an eternity? Look at how long it takes someone like James Rolfe to create a video about a 30 minute NES game.

I'm not entirely sure what context she got wrong, but I also rarely play current gen games which seems to be much of her focus.

Well yeah but James Rolfe makes a comedy series that isn't to be taken seriously. Even if she didn't want to tackle the root to the problems that I mentioned a couple of pages ago, and she just wanted to discuss tropes she considers offensive in gaming, you can't take her work seriously, specially not as academic material and maybe not even as simple opinion videos.

I remember when the nostalgia critic was making the Disneycember reviews and he was reviewing some films from memory and...well....you could tell and it made him look stupid.

And he was being lazy over something much smaller. She's being lazy over something that many stupid will bash her for, and she just fed them with tons of ammunition by getting some important things completely wrong.

And I'm sorry she got how much money to make these videos? Couldn't she use that money to live off while she locked herself in a room playing video games for her research material?


Of course this doesn't change the fact that even if she had done her work probably, she would still get rape/death threats.

[pepharytheworm]

it would have been much easier for her to get people to listen to her if she didn't speak so aggressively all the time.

I don't usually get my views from bumper stickers but this one had a ring of truth to it "Well behaved women don't make history"

The sad thing is if she talks friendly and nicely as possible her message would not have spread as far as it has.

[ZeroAX]

The sad thing is if she talks friendly and nicely as possible her message would not have spread as far as it has.

True

[Gunstar Green]

it would have been much easier for her to get people to listen to her if she didn't speak so aggressively all the time.

I don't usually get my views from bumper stickers but this one had a ring of truth to it "Well behaved women don't make history"

The sad thing is if she talks friendly and nicely as possible her message would not have spread as far as it has.

Honestly I always thought her tone was fairly neutral.

[marurun]

Of course this doesn't change the fact that even if she had done her work probably, she would still get rape/death threats.

As someone who has played some of those games, I would say it looks like she's done her work just fine. I sometimes watch longplays online instead of playing games myself. I may not get all the mechanics, but I can pick up plot and themes just as well as the alternative. I suspect she's spending lots of time doing research, and just isn't a gamer herself. Her lack of inclination to play games, however, doesn't mean she's unable to comment on thematic content within games. That's kinda like suggesting maybe some researcher should commit suicide before they talk like they know something about it.

[oxymoron]

There is no "stolen" footage. This is called Fair Use. We've been over this 100 times. This sort of thing is common in YouTube videos, it only became an issue to (certain) people once Anita started doing it.

Could/should she credit her sources better? Yes, that would be nice. But is it illegal and does it violate the YouTube TOS? Clearly not.

I don't really agree with Anita but this whole thing is just plain stupid. Next thing'll be the she's not a gamer because she uses inverted controls.

[ZeroAX]

As someone who has played some of those games, I would say it looks like she's done her work just fine. I sometimes watch longplays online instead of playing games myself. I may not get all the mechanics, but I can pick up plot and themes just as well as the alternative. I suspect she's spending lots of time doing research, and just isn't a gamer herself. Her lack of inclination to play games, however, doesn't mean she's unable to comment on thematic content within games. That's kinda like suggesting maybe some researcher should commit suicide before they talk like they know something about it.

Pushing the debate over the cliff much?

I'm sorry but you can't judge an artform outside of its full context. You can't judge a movie just by reading its script, you can't judge a comic by just looking at the pictures without reading the text (and vise versa) and you sure as hell can't judge a video game without playing it.