Do You Have Any Unpopular Gaming Opinions?

[MyNameIsVince]

Here's one:

I'm not a big Super Smash Bros fan, or at least I'm not a die hard like a lot of people are. But not that's probably not the unpopular opinion. This one is:

My favorite Smash Bros game is the original one. Yes, that one.

Why? Because I have played Brawl one time (I thought it was aight), and I have gotten so burned out on playing Melee by myself that I kinda have no desire to play Melee, like ever again.

I got a Gamecube in high school, mainly because I was a Nintendo fanboy and it felt weird if I wanted a PS2. I wasn't exactly all that thrilled with a Gamecube but hey, if I wanted that new system, better get it. So I got one, and I got Melee. I didn't have a memory card so I had to wait until the new year (2002) to start actually saving progress. Of course my friends at the time would rather play the original Smash on N64 because....well they liked it already so we did countless multiplayer matches on that game. This one.....not so much. I don't think I ever played multiplayer on Melee with my high school friends at all. Hell, I knew only one person who even had a Gamecube, and he was....for lack of a better phrase "that guy". Yeah. Anyway, so yes, I did nothing but play single player stuff in Melee, to unlock the trophies/characters/backgrounds/etc. Any multiplayer I did was VS mode with 3 computer opponents and myself. While initially doing all the single player stuff was fun, it got tiring the further I played and since none of my other high school friends had a Gamecube (nor were they interested), and some of them were about to move away for college (including me), the desire to play multiplayer Smash Melee was still at about zero. It got to a point in which I believe the slog of doing the single player stuff in Melee was the reason I kinda stopped keeping up with modern gaming at that point.

No joke, I can count on one hand how many times I've played multiplayer Melee with other actual human beings. Not one hand times 50 or times 100. On one hand. As in possibly 5 times or less.

That's in roughly 12 and a half years time of owning the game.

Also I hate using the Gamecube controller on Melee. The shoulder buttons are......not ideal for me when playing a Smash Bros game at all, and the Z button, which was utterly genius on the N64 controller, is almost useless here, mostly because the placement is a joke. What pinhead thought putting a Z button there would be even an option, much less a "good" one? I would have preferred any other location. Hell, even the middle of the controller would have been better. I don't care for it much, and the fact that the new Smash Bros game for the Wii U has an adapter to allow Gamecube controllers makes me feel like....like deja vu all over again....and not in a good way.

Look, I get that people like Melee, the multitude of options, the unlockables, and they like the Gamecube controller for it, and that's fine. But for me, I just can't do it much anymore. I'll take the original over Melee any day. Sure nostalgia plays a huge part in this, but at the same time, I kinda like the simplicity of the original. 90% of the time I play the original Smash now is multiplayer, and not just by myself with computer opponents, but actual other people. Plus, Melee reminds me of high school, and almost everything that reminds me of high school (more like the last couple of years between 2000-2002) is something that doesn't bring a smile to my face. That's kind of a reason why I stopped listening to about 80% of the music I listened to in high school (Nu Metal I am looking at you).


Phew, that was lengthy.


PS - Anybody that attempts to challenge me with "Competitive Smash, bro - no items, Final Destination, Fox only".....leave. I do not "Competitive" Smash. Period.

[ZeroAX]

I think "I prefer game X over Y cause of nostalgia/personal experiences" is like the most legit reason you can give on this forum.

[ZeroAX]

Double post but I just thought of this one:

I believe that PS2 games have aged horribly, and in fact PS1 games have aged better overall, only because the PS1 had many more 2D games (at least mainstream ones), or had 3D games that played like 2D (think Final Fantasy, Klonoa ect.)

(of course I'm not going to defend PS1 era 3D action games, but I always stayed away from them anyway. JRPGs and platformers were all I needed)

[KalessinDB]

3d ages horribly. Always and forever. Every 3d game where you go "Holy shnikes, check out what THIS looks like!", in 5-10 years the response is "Dang... why did we ever think this was good?)

You just have to enjoy them for what they are and the time they came out. It's why I've never understood the obsession with graphics in games. Just give me a game that's fun to play, because the reality is when they're 5+ years old (which, with my gaming backlog, is when I play 95%+ of all my games) they're just not going to look great.

[Hobie-wan]

3d ages horribly. Always and forever. Every 3d game where you go "Holy shnikes, check out what THIS looks like!", in 5-10 years the response is "Dang... why did we ever think this was good?)

Eh, I'd say that it's the attempts at realism that almost always age badly. Stylized things can have lasting appeal. Most people would agree that a lot of pixel stuff holds up and that is a stylized approximation of 'real' things most of the time.

[KalessinDB]

3d ages horribly. Always and forever. Every 3d game where you go "Holy shnikes, check out what THIS looks like!", in 5-10 years the response is "Dang... why did we ever think this was good?)

Eh, I'd say that it's the attempts at realism that almost always age badly. Stylized things can have lasting appeal. Most people would agree that a lot of pixel stuff holds up and that is a stylized approximation of 'real' things most of the time.

Fair distinction, and I agree.

[Exhuminator]

Eh, I'd say that it's the attempts at realism that almost always age badly. Stylized things can have lasting appeal.

I totally agree with this. Mega Man Legends still looks great but Turok: Dinosaur Hunter not so much.

[lisalover1]

3d ages horribly. Always and forever. Every 3d game where you go "Holy shnikes, check out what THIS looks like!", in 5-10 years the response is "Dang... why did we ever think this was good?)

You just have to enjoy them for what they are and the time they came out. It's why I've never understood the obsession with graphics in games. Just give me a game that's fun to play, because the reality is when they're 5+ years old (which, with my gaming backlog, is when I play 95%+ of all my games) they're just not going to look great.

I don't know - I think that some rather interesting things could be done with a low-poly 3D aesthetic. As long as the concept itself lent itself to an abstract design, then I think it would be quite appropriate.

[ZeroAX]

3d ages horribly. Always and forever. Every 3d game where you go "Holy shnikes, check out what THIS looks like!", in 5-10 years the response is "Dang... why did we ever think this was good?)

You just have to enjoy them for what they are and the time they came out. It's why I've never understood the obsession with graphics in games. Just give me a game that's fun to play, because the reality is when they're 5+ years old (which, with my gaming backlog, is when I play 95%+ of all my games) they're just not going to look great.

You misunderstood me. It's not the graphics which I think have aged badly (I mean they are graphics, they can only age), it's mainly the controls. As I said PS1 games still had 2D gameplay (even with 3D graphics) a lot of the time, and PS3 games finally nailed how to do 3D controls, but PS2 games have some of the worst controls I have ever seen.

[dunpeal2064]

God hand disagrees.

Really though, it depends on what games you are looking at. The ps1 has some games that were fairly popular and used 3D controls (Tomb Raider, Resident Evil), and, well, if having 2D games or games with 2D controls is a saving grace here, I don't see how the ps2 fails. More thoughts in spoiler:

Fighters (Tons on the system, even if only looking at 2D. Guilty Gear AC+ alone puts this category above its predecessor. Could list these all day.)

RPGs (Tons of em. Whether the quality is equal is up for debate, but it certainly has the numbers. Again, could list these all day)

Shmups (Tons of em, no matter the scrolling direction or bullet density, and the ports were only getting better here, for the most part. Having Dodonpachi DOJ, Espgaluda, Gradius V, Shikigami II, Dragon Blaze, Psyvariar, Chaos Field, and the plethora of shooters on comps here easily puts it on par with ps1 stuff)

Music games (Tons of GH, Frequency, Amplitude, Gitaroo man, Mad Maestro... again, another area that easily tops the ps1's offerings here)

Ports/comps (Again, tons here. You may or may not count these, but for me its hard to discredit stuff like the Sega AGES collections, many of which offer games/modes unavailable elsewhere. Panzer Dragoon remake, Treasure Box with Alien Soldier, The only Tetris port that is close to TGM, Dynamite Deka with Saturn mode intact, etc, etc).

... and, that is only touching on easy-to-categorize games. Viewtiful Joe and Klonoa 2 are some more standouts with great 2D controls, and Okami, Resident Evil 4, Zone of the Enders, Shinobi, Beyond Good and Evil, and GOD HAND are some 3D games that blow away most attempts the ps1 made (God Hand alone pretty much obliterates the idea that 3D ps2 games have poor controls. Its sublime almost solely for its controls)