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I don't think the graphics are bad they just aren't that far above what Fallout 3 PC looked like maxed out. The graphics for Fallout 3 and NV were actually quite good.
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who cares, the PC version will have fan made 4k texture mods just like Skyrim
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Ok, so this Fallout series. I got the 3 titles before they left GOG due to the Interplay/Bethesda spat, but what exactly are these type of games? I've seen descriptions of RPG & FPS elements? Like a certain game some are not big fans of around here (but I am)?
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ExedExes wrote:Ok, so this Fallout series. I got the 3 titles before they left GOG due to the Interplay/Bethesda spat, but what exactly are these type of games? I've seen descriptions of RPG & FPS elements? Like a certain game some are not big fans of around here (but I am)?
Fallout 1 & 2 are turn-based strategy sandbox RPGs. You make your character, based on what skills and stats you have determine how quests play out and how dialog options go (low intelligence, means super stupid dialog).

The 3rd games and subsequent sequel Fallout New Vegas, are a first/third person shooter rpg. You have the ability to stop time and assign action points to essentially get some free shots to various regions on an enemies body. Everything is percentage based on if you hit, so you can aim and shoot, but are not assured a hit. Your skills increase your chances to hit. Again, what types of stats and skills you have change how dialog and quests play out.

Another game in the series, Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel is a turn-based/real-time squad-based strategy game. You have missions, pick your team and move out, akin to games like X-com or Jagged Alliance, but can be a lot faster paced if you choose to go with the default gameplay mode of everything being in real-time. I did not enjoy the game as much, as everything is much more linear and the real-time element makes things really difficult for me managing my team and the turn-based strategy mode takes forever when watching the other team make their moves.
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Honestly I don't understand why anyone is surprised about or complaining that the graphics look "bad." Oblivion, Fallout 3, New Vegas, and Skyrim ALL came out and were graphically inferior compared to the standards of the time they released in. That's the price you pay for having such a massive world with so much content.

As long as the atmosphere and gameplay are good, then I'll be happy. And if they could improve the writing over F3 then that would be icing on the cake.
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BogusMeatFactory wrote:The 3rd games and subsequent sequel Fallout New Vegas, are a first/third person shooter rpg. You have the ability to stop time and assign action points to essentially get some free shots to various regions on an enemies body. Everything is percentage based on if you hit, so you can aim and shoot, but are not assured a hit. Your skills increase your chances to hit. Again, what types of stats and skills you have change how dialog and quests play out.
Actually, when you use the stop-time (VATS) function to target enemies and select your actions, your skills do affect your ability to hit. If you choose to aim and shoot in real-time, your skills only affect damage. Your real-world mouse-ability is what determines if you hit. You can hit every time with the cowboy repeater even if you have really crappy skill in guns, but you're gonna have to hit with a ton of bullets to drop anything.

Fallout New Vegas had much better real-time shooting mechanics.

Imagine the combat in Oblivion or Skyrim extended to guns, except now you have the ability to jump into an optional combat mode where you select targets and what you want to attack them with. In exchange for giving up your own aiming skills and in-the-moment responses, you get increased damage and defense, and increased speed relative to your enemies.
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"It's like Skyrim with guns." -IGN
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my experience with the Fallout series is that time I played like a half hour of the first one. That said, the fact that this one is going to be in Boston (right?) makes me feel like I want to play it.
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The original Fallout is my all time favorite WRPG. I first beat it circa 2000. These days it's not much to look at, and it's kinda slow with its turn based combat, but dat moral freedom. Fallout made me feel like I was truly living in a world where I was free to be who I wanted, do what I wanted, and accomplish what I wanted. (Well, at least once you get the water chip out of the way.) There are so many things I love about the original Fallout, but I don't feel like writing five paragraphs explaining them right now. Best atmosphere of an RPG I've ever played BTW.

Fallout 2 I have not finished, because I became disillusioned with it after a save game glitch destroyed my 20+ hours of progress within it (circa 2001). (Pretty sure the GOG version of this fixes that.) The second game is good, but it feels more like a humongous expansion pack for the original rather than its own unique evolved experience.

Fallout Tactics I beat back in 2002. It is a seriously tough strategy game. I beat it via the turn based mode because real time is impossible from what I could tell. This was a huge and deeply addictive experience for me, I put 65 hours into beating it and did so in one week (granted I was unemployed at the time). If you are a lover of turn based squad strategy games, Fallout Tactics is top tier material. It was always challenging and always entertaining. I'd be tempted to call it an SRPG actually, but to explain why would go into spoiler material.

I beat Fallout 3 back in 2008 on PC. I thought it was a wonderful game, and did an excellent job of bringing Fallout into the world of 3D. The VATS combat system was always entertaining, and it continued that same moral freedom I loved from the original (yes I nuked Megaton). Just exploring the wasteland for me never got boring, and was always rewarding. Great game, especially with mods. Though the vanilla experience is just dandy. I never messed with any of Fallout 3's DLC though.

As for New Vegas, I have the GOTY edition for 360, but I have not played it yet.
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Thanks all. For the longest time I had trouble figuring out exactly what types of games these really were. So I've got the more RPG-type of the series in 1 & 2.
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