IGN: Sega ahead of it's time.

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arnold_the_bartender wrote:I just don't get why certain games sounded muffled, as if a filter was used. Donkey Kong Country is an example of this and many SNES games have bass that sounds "tinny". The games that don't sound muffled are nice and clean but are usually orchestral tracks.


SNES sound tinny? Vs. the Genesis? You're kidding, right?

I prefer the SNES over the Genesis, but he's right. Compare Super Mario World to Sonic & Knuckles and tell me which system sounds tinny.
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BurningDoom wrote:
SNES sound tinny? Vs. the Genesis? You're kidding, right?


Not kidding. I usually play through my sound system as well. It all boils down to how well composers made use of the hardware. Both can pull off great compositions if done right. Comparing the two would be like comparing apples to oranges though.
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BoringSupreez wrote:
BurningDoom wrote:
arnold_the_bartender wrote:I just don't get why certain games sounded muffled, as if a filter was used. Donkey Kong Country is an example of this and many SNES games have bass that sounds "tinny". The games that don't sound muffled are nice and clean but are usually orchestral tracks.


SNES sound tinny? Vs. the Genesis? You're kidding, right?

I prefer the SNES over the Genesis, but he's right. Compare Super Mario World to Sonic & Knuckles and tell me which system sounds tinny.

What I'm confused about is DKC sounding "muffled".
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BurningDoom wrote:
arnold_the_bartender wrote:I just don't get why certain games sounded muffled, as if a filter was used. Donkey Kong Country is an example of this and many SNES games have bass that sounds "tinny". The games that don't sound muffled are nice and clean but are usually orchestral tracks.


SNES sound tinny? Vs. the Genesis? You're kidding, right?

He never said vs the Genesis. He was probably comparing it to the SNES games with very high quality sound.
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Dylan wrote:What I'm confused about is DKC sounding "muffled".


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=997nCYGXJbw (probably could find a better example)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNKsL_Gr1qY (Listen to the percussion on this one)

GameMasterGuy wrote:He never said vs the Genesis. He was probably comparing it to the SNES games with very high quality sound.


Yes, that's what I mean. The Genesis wasn't inclusive in my comparison. Super Mario Kart sounds clean but man the bass could've been done way better.
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arnold_the_bartender wrote:
Dylan wrote:What I'm confused about is DKC sounding "muffled".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNKsL_Gr1qY (Listen to the percussion on this one)

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I thought since it was a Sega thread, that it was implied we were comparing them against Sega systems. Sorry.
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GameMasterGuy wrote:The conversation four pages in being on-topic? You must be thinking of a different Racketboy XD

The problem with forums that are strict about staying on-topic is that any thread longer than about 2-3 pages isn't worth reading past that point because the replies become redundant.
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BurningDoom wrote:I thought since it was a Sega thread, that it was implied we were comparing them against Sega systems. Sorry.


Not sure what you mean.

Here's a pretty clean DKC track. In fact, it's one of my most favorite tracks in the game, though the percussion still has that filter feel to it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0Is7-Om7Fs

I could swear that the SNES makes use of a low-pass filter which is why some games (or certain areas of music like how Life in the Mines sound nice and crisp but the percussion is dull) don't sound as clear. I wonder if it's possible to disable it in an emulator. I haven't emulated in forever, been playing on real hardware.
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