NES pin connector on PAL and NTSC console the same?...

[3GenGames]

You guys are idiots. Neither of you have even tried my solution yet I can garuntee. And to link to a post of a guy suggesting erasers to clean contacts and goes through pages on which to chose? Ha! You'll never learn will I guess.....oh well. This community shall always be inferior I guess.

[flamepanther]

Big words from someone who is either younger than the games he is talking about, or has been dependent on his parents for way too long--and who cannot spell "guarantee". You might as well stop threatening to troll your superiority complex elsewhere and just do it.

If you want to encourage people to NOT try your technique, keep acting like you are.

[3GenGames]

Okay then, I'll just post my article with comparison pictures soon then if I must show you proof instead of you trusting someone like me then. And yes, I had a typo, nice way to make it way worse than it is. And yes, the games are older than me, but age at a certain point doesn't equal your knowledge. I may be young, but it doesn't mean I know nothing.

[elmagicochrisg]

Okay then, I'll just post my article with comparison pictures soon then if I must show you proof instead of you trusting someone like me then. And yes, I had a typo, nice way to make it way worse than it is. And yes, the games are older than me, but age at a certain point doesn't equal your knowledge. I may be young, but it doesn't mean I know nothing.

We are way past the point of being civil here...

[flamepanther]

And yes, the games are older than me, but age at a certain point doesn't equal your knowledge. I may be young, but it doesn't mean I know nothing.

No, and I'm always happy to see younger gamers get into the old stuff--but it does mean that many of us have been cleaning NES games longer than you've been alive. People who work with electronics for fun or business have been cleaning metal contacts for decades even longer than that. We know that nothing bad happens to a connector when it is cleaned with an eraser or with specially formulated contact cleaner for ten, twenty, even forty years. Conventional wisdom would show then that this is "DOING IT RIGHT." You believe you know a better way--maybe you do, and maybe you do not--but either way there's absolutely no call to insult people for using methods that have worked perfectly for a great many decades.

[3GenGames]

They have not worked perfectly. The eraser method leaves a layer of dirt that has built up over the years of collecting dust. Then when you insert it into the systems, the layer of dirt then gets scraped onto the connector.

[flamepanther]

They have not worked perfectly. The eraser method leaves a layer of dirt that has built up over the years of collecting dust. Then when you insert it into the systems, the layer of dirt then gets scraped onto the connector.

The problem that causes NES connectors not to work isn't built up dirt. It's oxidation of the copper metal. Eraser debris is extremely easy to brush away. Even if it were not brushed away, the friction of insertion into the connector would brush it away for you, and it would simply fall onto the motherboard or into parts of the connector that do not make contact with the cartridge. Cartridge insertion generally fixes dust issues on its own (same idea as "re-seating" computer boards). Oxidation persists despite simple friction and requires cleaning solutions or abrasion.

Again, most of us have been cleaning games and consoles with contact cleaners, pencil erasers, and even isopropyl alcohol (works just fine for basic cleaning) for longer than you've been alive without encountering the problem you've imagined here.

[3GenGames]

Back to age=superiority. Bad way to say stuff to try to convince me. And actually, the problem with connectors is the deformation of the metal contacts. If you boil the connectors for 10 minutes, you can fix them pretty easily so I've heard. I don't know if it works on replacements though.

[flamepanther]

Back to age=superiority.

Not even close. It's about the technique being time proven. That remains true no matter who is using the technique, young or old. Talk of people being "superior" is frowned on here, and it's a mentality that most of us have long since outgrown--even some members who are younger than you, I'd wager. We're a community centered around a hobby, neither of which is a dick measuring contest like you seem to want to turn it into. One of the things most frequently praised about the Racketboy community is that we see that sort of bullshit for what it is, and we don't put up with it. If you want to talk trash to people and wave your e-penis around, pick up a headset and get on XBOX Live.

And actually, the problem with connectors is the deformation of the metal contacts. If you boil the connectors for 10 minutes, you can fix them pretty easily so I've heard. I don't know if it works on replacements though.

Actually both are issues that can happen, and either one will cause problems. However, we were talking about cleaning the connector at this point, or what's the purpose of your cleaner? Nice attempt at redirection though.

[3GenGames]

The cleaner is use because the connection will be lost on some pins that are dirty on your game, and can make your connector dirty, too.

And I don't know about you, but I solely collect and mess with NES. I'm only providing information I've learned through MY experience, too.