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Inazuma wrote:I need to give up with trying to talk sense into foolish people.
If we are so "foolish" why don't you find your own forum instead of insulting people?

If you are so worried about "helping people" you should understand that insulting them is not exactly the way to go.
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AppleQueso wrote:Why does inazuma feel he has to post a comment like that in every thread about a major religious holiday?
Because he feels it's necessary to force his religious preferences on others.
He's not forcing a preference, he's going off topic with something purely for shock value. If it wasn't him posting, I may have actually been offended, however I've read enough (of his) posts to not put stock into the vast majority.

I don't think we need to delve into the comment with any factual basis, because that lends itself to giving the result he was probably after. With that said - I don't know of any respected theologian from ANY religion, or any prominent atheist who denies that (A) Jesus Christ was absolutely a historical and REAL person who absolutely lived and walked the Earth. (B) That Jesus Christ the human being was sentenced and crucified on or about what we each year refer to as Good Friday. (C) That the earthen/rock tomb he was put into was empty without authorization before it was supposed to be. These are not fairy tales.

If you do not believe he arose from the dead as he prophesied he would do - that's fine. But to proclaim the day we Christians celebrate is BS, then again, the attempt at shock value only results in a show of ignorance.
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mjmjr25 wrote:
Ack wrote:
AppleQueso wrote:Why does inazuma feel he has to post a comment like that in every thread about a major religious holiday?
Because he feels it's necessary to force his religious preferences on others.
He's not forcing a preference, he's going off topic with something purely for shock value. If it wasn't him posting, I may have actually been offended, however I've read enough (of his) posts to not put stock into the vast majority.

I don't think we need to delve into the comment with any factual basis, because that lends itself to giving the result he was probably after. With that said - I don't know of any respected theologian from ANY religion, or any prominent atheist who denies that (A) Jesus Christ was absolutely a historical and REAL person who absolutely lived and walked the Earth. (B) That Jesus Christ the human being was sentenced and crucified on or about what we each year refer to as Good Friday. (C) That the earthen/rock tomb he was put into was empty without authorization before it was supposed to be. These are not fairy tales.

If you do not believe he arose from the dead as he prophesied he would do - that's fine. But to proclaim the day we Christians celebrate is BS, then again, the attempt at shock value only results in a show of ignorance.
There is so much I want to say to this but it will only make people more upset, so I'll hold off. All I will say is that I wasn't posting for shock value. I actually care about people and hate to see them getting harmed by things, such as religion. It really upsets me to see the negative effects of religion in my daily life, and it upsets me even more that I am powerless to stop it. My frustration builds up and it can take the form of anger sometimes.
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Inazuma wrote: I actually care about people and hate to see them getting harmed by things, such as religion. It really upsets me to see the negative effects of religion in my daily life, and it upsets me even more that I am powerless to stop it. My frustration builds up and it can take the form of anger sometimes.
Not your call, chief. I am as anti-organized religion as they come but I recognize that it's not my place to give people shit because of what I believe. To do so would be total hypocrisy. People believe and belief is not something you just screw around with or try to save people from.

I'm looking around at the people on the board who ARE religious and I don't see them being 'harmed' by it. I see people celebrating something they know in their hearts to be true. Who are you, or I, or anybody to fuck with that? Especially on a video game forum, of all places.

Like I said, whenever you type something up, do everyone (including yourself) a favor and re-read it objectively before you hit that submit button. No one needs you to save them and, frankly, we're all tired of you trying.
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Flake wrote:
Inazuma wrote: I actually care about people and hate to see them getting harmed by things, such as religion. It really upsets me to see the negative effects of religion in my daily life, and it upsets me even more that I am powerless to stop it. My frustration builds up and it can take the form of anger sometimes.
Not your call, chief. I am as anti-organized religion as they come but I recognize that it's not my place to give people shit because of what I believe. To do so would be total hypocrisy. People believe and belief is not something you just screw around with or try to save people from.

I'm looking around at the people on the board who ARE religious and I don't see them being 'harmed' by it. I see people celebrating something they know in their hearts to be true. Who are you, or I, or anybody to fuck with that? Especially on a video game forum, of all places.
I was going to type something like this, as it's exactly how I feel, but I opted not to.
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brunoafh wrote:
Flake wrote:
Inazuma wrote: I actually care about people and hate to see them getting harmed by things, such as religion. It really upsets me to see the negative effects of religion in my daily life, and it upsets me even more that I am powerless to stop it. My frustration builds up and it can take the form of anger sometimes.
Not your call, chief. I am as anti-organized religion as they come but I recognize that it's not my place to give people shit because of what I believe. To do so would be total hypocrisy. People believe and belief is not something you just screw around with or try to save people from.

I'm looking around at the people on the board who ARE religious and I don't see them being 'harmed' by it. I see people celebrating something they know in their hearts to be true. Who are you, or I, or anybody to fuck with that? Especially on a video game forum, of all places.
I was going to type something like this, as it's exactly how I feel, but I opted not to.
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Flake wrote:
Inazuma wrote: I actually care about people and hate to see them getting harmed by things, such as religion. It really upsets me to see the negative effects of religion in my daily life, and it upsets me even more that I am powerless to stop it. My frustration builds up and it can take the form of anger sometimes.
Not your call, chief. I am as anti-organized religion as they come but I recognize that it's not my place to give people shit because of what I believe. To do so would be total hypocrisy. People believe and belief is not something you just screw around with or try to save people from.

I'm looking around at the people on the board who ARE religious and I don't see them being 'harmed' by it. I see people celebrating something they know in their hearts to be true. Who are you, or I, or anybody to fuck with that? Especially on a video game forum, of all places.

Like I said, whenever you type something up, do everyone (including yourself) a favor and re-read it objectively before you hit that submit button. No one needs you to save them and, frankly, we're all tired of you trying.
Some people think vanilla is the best ice cream flavor and some think chocolate is the best. Both are correct and I wouldn't try to convince anyone to have the same opinion as me since it doesn't work that way.

That's completely different from things like religion. Opinions are not the same as facts. Either god is real or he isn't. It's one or the other. One side is right and one side is wrong. Yeah, anyone can choose to believe whatever they want, but it won't change the fact that one side is wrong.

When someone says something really absurd or stupid like "I'm gonna go flush all of my money down the toilet because my parents told me I should.", many people would not only think they were foolish, they would speak up and try to stop them from doing it. The difference with religion is that it is so widespread that it isn't seen as crazy. If most people flush all their money down the toilet, it stops being seen as foolish.

There is a saying of "Two wrongs don't make a right." Apparently there is another saying of "When most people are wrong about something, they suddenly become right about it, and the people who are actually right suddenly become wrong.". This sort of thing actually happens too. One example would be the English language. When the majority of English speakers fuck up a certain word or phrase enough, it becomes the new correct way to say it. Another example would be the flushing of money down the toilet I mentioned earlier. That is also so widespread that it isn't viewed as foolish by the majority of people. (Yes, I am referring to marriage.)

If no one speaks up when someone is about to do something stupid, we will just keep getting worse. Parents are supposed to raise their children this way, but instead we have parents with your way of thinking, that see their children doing foolish things and not trying to correct them.

There have been many times where I have given someone advice on how to do something better, only to have them get upset at me for suggesting it. The other day while playing an MMO, I would cast a high level buff spell on a teammate, only to have them overwrite it with a lower level of the same spell. I told him that the buffs don't stack and that he is making us weaker, but he got mad at me for telling him, plus he kept on doing it.


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Inazuma wrote: Some people think vanilla is the best ice cream flavor and some think chocolate is the best. Both are correct and I wouldn't try to convince anyone to have the same opinion as me since it doesn't work that way.

That's completely different from things like religion. Opinions are not the same as facts. Either god is real or he isn't. It's one or the other. One side is right and one side is wrong. Yeah, anyone can choose to believe whatever they want, but it won't change the fact that one side is wrong.

When someone says something really absurd or stupid like "I'm gonna go flush all of my money down the toilet because my parents told me I should.", many people would not only think they were foolish, they would speak up and try to stop them from doing it. The difference with religion is that it is so widespread that it isn't seen as crazy. If most people flush all their money down the toilet, it stops being seen as foolish.
Okay, I'll take your approach.

No one likes you. No one cares what you have to say. No one clicks on a link where you're the most recent poster without groaning a little on the inside, wondering what this pissant has to say this time. You have no standing. You have no place to talk about video games, much less peoples belief systems. You waste your time with every key you type and I am seriously wondering if I could paypal you a certain amount of funds to go the hell away and never bother people ever again. I'd be willing to gift it.

Conversations are constantly derailed by your sanctimonious, inane, undesired, unrequested, naive, blind bullshit and despite constant requests for you to get in line and act like a reasonable person, you persist in pissing everyone the hell off. I used to think you were some clever kind of troll. That was overly generous of me and I have since moved on.

You want to talk about someone doing something stupid OVER AND OVER again without figuring it out? You're that someone dude. Or have you not figured that out yet?
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Flake wrote:
Okay, I'll take your approach.

No one likes you. No one cares what you have to say. No one clicks on a link where you're the most recent poster without groaning a little on the inside, wondering what this pissant has to say this time. You have no standing. You have no place to talk about video games, much less peoples belief systems. You waste your time with every key you type and I am seriously wondering if I could paypal you a certain amount of funds to go the hell away and never bother people ever again. I'd be willing to gift it.

Conversations are constantly derailed by your sanctimonious, inane, undesired, unrequested, naive, blind bullshit and despite constant requests for you to get in line and act like a reasonable person, you persist in pissing everyone the hell off. I used to think you were some clever kind of troll. That was overly generous of me and I have since moved on.

You want to talk about someone doing something stupid OVER AND OVER again without figuring it out? You're that someone dude. Or have you not figured that out yet?
I've seen lots of posts worthy of this, but, I think this one takes the cake.

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What you fail to understand Inazuma is that all your long winded over the top posts are fucking opinions man! YOU need to learn the difference between facts and opinions.
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RyaNtheSlayA wrote:
Flake wrote:
Okay, I'll take your approach.

No one likes you. No one cares what you have to say. No one clicks on a link where you're the most recent poster without groaning a little on the inside, wondering what this pissant has to say this time. You have no standing. You have no place to talk about video games, much less peoples belief systems. You waste your time with every key you type and I am seriously wondering if I could paypal you a certain amount of funds to go the hell away and never bother people ever again. I'd be willing to gift it.

Conversations are constantly derailed by your sanctimonious, inane, undesired, unrequested, naive, blind bullshit and despite constant requests for you to get in line and act like a reasonable person, you persist in pissing everyone the hell off. I used to think you were some clever kind of troll. That was overly generous of me and I have since moved on.

You want to talk about someone doing something stupid OVER AND OVER again without figuring it out? You're that someone dude. Or have you not figured that out yet?
I've seen lots of worthy posts of this, but, I think this one takes the cake.

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You know, I saw you post that gif in another thread (I think?), and when I read that, I immediately thought of it. Good call.
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