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Re: Racketboy members best of 2010 in gaming!
Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:11 pm
by Snickerd00dle
swiftzx wrote:Overrated game of the Year: Red Dead Redemption
Ha, I totally forgot that this came out this year- you might think it was overrated, and I can see where you are coming from- but (for me) that might compete with Mass Effect 2
Re: Racketboy members best of 2010 in gaming!
Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:13 pm
by dsheinem
Ack wrote:Just remember that at best this is supposed to be all in good fun, and at worst, if people start criticizing each other's choices and launching personal attacks, I'll be waiting in the wings.
What a stupid opinion. Are you a moron?

Re: Racketboy members best of 2010 in gaming!
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 2:06 am
by sevin0seven
Best Retro Console of 2010: ?
you mean this type of "retro" console?

Re: Racketboy members best of 2010 in gaming!
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 2:14 am
by MrEco
Ack wrote:But ultimately this all comes down to personal opinion, which is part of the reason I've started to avoid making statements about the Best or Worst title of any year, era, genre, console, etc. No matter what, someone will disagree with you because to someone that game you choose to rag on may happen to be one of their favorites. I especially don't like doing it for retro games because then someone will have fond childhood memories attached to the game, no matter how good or bad, and I don't want to be the person who bashes their favorite thing as a kid.
Same here.
Re: Racketboy members best of 2010 in gaming!
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 8:56 am
by lisalover1
Ack wrote:lisalover1 wrote:Gamerforlife wrote:Worst game of the Year:Scott Pilgrim
Overrated game of the Year:Scott Pilgrim
Jeez, man, ease up on SP! You're WAY too belligerent about your beat-em-ups. Everyone knows you don't like the game, but seriously? Worst game of the year? Worse than Naughty Bear, Attack of the Movies, the "Imagine" series, and for all the other shovelware of the year, for that matter? You have all the right in the world to dislike the game, but give credit where credit is due, at the very least. For example, I really disliked Red Dead Redemption, but I will certainly recognize that it is a well-made game, and is by no means a "bad" game; I just don't like it.
Hey, I had to put up with someone claiming Deadly Premonition was the worst game of the year. If anything, I felt it was one of the most underrated, but I'm a fan of retro survival horror (which is what it feels like). I've also recently started watching the first season of Twin Peaks specifically to get in the proper mindset for this game.
But ultimately this all comes down to personal opinion, which is part of the reason I've started to avoid making statements about the Best or Worst title of any year, era, genre, console, etc. No matter what, someone will disagree with you because to someone that game you choose to rag on may happen to be one of their favorites. I especially don't like doing it for retro games because then someone will have fond childhood memories attached to the game, no matter how good or bad, and I don't want to be the person who bashes their favorite thing as a kid.
Gamerforlife didn't like Scott Pilgrim, and there's no shame in that. Lisalover1, you really loved it, and there's no shame in that either. Don't worry about the conjecture and understand that there will be times when your opinions won't match. Lisa, you will probably trash one of Gamerforlife's favorite games at some point, if you haven't already. Just remember that at best this is supposed to be all in good fun, and at worst, if people start criticizing each other's choices and launching personal attacks, I'll be waiting in the wings.
*Sigh* I always get way too worked up over this stuff.

I know what you're saying, Ack, but I still think it is a bit of an exaggeration to call it the "Worst" game of the year.
Re: Racketboy members best of 2010 in gaming!
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 9:00 am
by alienjesus
dsheinem wrote:lisalover1 wrote:Gamerforlife wrote:Worst game of the Year:Scott Pilgrim
Overrated game of the Year:Scott Pilgrim
Jeez, man, ease up on SP! You're WAY too belligerent about your beat-em-ups. Everyone knows you don't like the game, but seriously? Worst game of the year? Worse than Naughty Bear, Attack of the Movies, the "Imagine" series, and for all the other shovelware of the year, for that matter? You have all the right in the world to dislike the game, but give credit where credit is due, at the very least. For example, I really disliked Red Dead Redemption, but I will certainly recognize that it is a well-made game, and is by no means a "bad" game; I just don't like it.
I forgot about SP. I agree it is a strong candidate for most overrated of 2010...
I have to agree myself. Out of what I played, I have to say that actually, I'd say it was the worst game I played this year (It was still decent though) and certainly the most overrated game I personally played. I'd edit my choices but I'm too lazy.
Re: Racketboy members best of 2010 in gaming!
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 9:45 am
by lisalover1
alienjesus wrote:I have to agree myself. Out of what I played, I have to say that actually, I'd say it was the worst game I played this year (It was still decent though) and certainly the most overrated game I personally played. I'd edit my choices but I'm too lazy.
I'm really curious as to why you guys found it so unappealing. From some of the responses I have heard, you would think that Brian O'Malley personally spit on your face, or something!
Re: Racketboy members best of 2010 in gaming!
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 9:59 am
by dsheinem
lisalover1 wrote:alienjesus wrote:I have to agree myself. Out of what I played, I have to say that actually, I'd say it was the worst game I played this year (It was still decent though) and certainly the most overrated game I personally played. I'd edit my choices but I'm too lazy.
I'm really curious as to why you guys found it so unappealing. From some of the responses I have heard, you would think that Brian O'Malley personally spit on your face, or something!
I was excited to play a retro-style beat 'em up. What I found was a grind-fest. A well designed brawler should be able to be beat on one credit, or at the very least through some credit feeding. Grinding takes away the pick up and play quality of the genre. This is the same reason that I haven't even finished the superior Castle Crashers.
Plus, even though I haven't read the graphic novels or yet seen the movie, something about the whole Scott Pilgrim thing really perturbs me. Maybe it's because I'm old and crotchety, but it smacks of the same agitating retro-chic that made all those hipsters want to buy clothes that looked like they were from the 70s about 5-10 years ago. Now that the retro gaming is becoming part of that same scene, shit like Scott Pilgrim has become a bit of a standard bearer for what annoys me about it.
Re: Racketboy members best of 2010 in gaming!
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 10:35 am
by ZeroAX
lisalover1 wrote:*Sigh* I always get way too worked up over this stuff.

I know what you're saying, Ack, but I still think it is a bit of an exaggeration to call it the "Worst" game of the year.
there there. If it makes you feel any better, I liked it

Re: Racketboy members best of 2010 in gaming!
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 11:01 am
by lisalover1
dsheinem wrote:lisalover1 wrote:alienjesus wrote:I have to agree myself. Out of what I played, I have to say that actually, I'd say it was the worst game I played this year (It was still decent though) and certainly the most overrated game I personally played. I'd edit my choices but I'm too lazy.
I'm really curious as to why you guys found it so unappealing. From some of the responses I have heard, you would think that Brian O'Malley personally spit on your face, or something!
I was excited to play a retro-style beat 'em up. What I found was a grind-fest. A well designed brawler should be able to be beat on one credit, or at the very least through some credit feeding. Grinding takes away the pick up and play quality of the genre. This is the same reason that I haven't even finished the superior Castle Crashers.
Huh. That's interesting, because that's exactly the reason why I love the game. Unlike other Beat-Em'-Ups, Scott Pilgrim actually gives you a chance to beat the game. You don't have to grind a bit if you don't want to, but if you get stuck, at least the game gives you the option to improve your chances. Too many games in the genre go about difficulty in a deliberately unfair manner, leaving you with no option but to start the game aaaaaalllll the way over again just to try at one more stage. Is this retro? Definitely. Is it appealing? I can see how it might be. But the important thing is that it doesn't necessarily mesh nearly as well with a Beat-Em'-Up, as does, say, a Platformer. In the former genre, super-long stages make repeated attempts a total chore. In short, I like games that I actually have a chance to beat, and SP is one of the few games in the genre that makes it possible.