N64 wrestling games

[Niode]

South Park 64 looks fine, I don't see what you're griping about there.

You could say it's faithful to the TV show?

[RCBH928]

I was trying to make a point that advanced graphics are not always better looking than older graphics...
3D does not mean better than 2D , and a gamecube game does not mean more eye pleasing than a SNES game.

because Niode made a sarcastic comment about people should not play games with simpler graphics, and I wanted to say some graphics are just terrible to look at.

[Incognito D]

:oops:
I was trying to make a point that advanced graphics are not always better looking than older graphics...
3D does not mean better than 2D , and a gamecube game does not mean more eye pleasing than a SNES game.

because Niode made a sarcastic comment about people should not play games with simpler graphics, and I wanted to say some graphics are just terrible to look at.

I understand what you're trying to say and I completely agree.

I always like to say, Nice 2D is better than Bad 3D.

Donkey Kong Country for example looks better than Donkey Kong 64 in my opinion.

[Jbroderway]

To analyze the graphics for wcw revenge, you have to look at the environment the game was released in, and the respective goals for the game in that environment. Wcw/nwo world tour was a great game engine, but lacked in the roster department and didn't feel like a wcw game ( basically due to it being a virtual pro wrestling clone with edited costumes). Thus when work on Revenge started, the goals were to include more wcw wrestlers, and make the overall aesthetics of the arenas and entrances match what fans saw on Monday nights. This was accomplished well enough for the time. You also have to remember that wrestling was red hot when revenge came out, and you could have packaged a dog turd in an n64 box and put wcw on the label and it would have shipped a million units. I remember the graphics being on par with what was out there in terms of other games of the day and I have no problem going back and playing it now.

[neilencio]

The thing with WCW/NWO Revenge's graphics (and for a lot of N64 games) is that you have to appreciate them outside of the context of realism. If you're going to judge it based on how anatomically correct or how lifelike the lightings and the shapes are, it's going to be crap.

Basically I consider it in the same vein of those 3D pixar films, wherein the designs are not realistic but they still look good.

[the King]

I loved this style of grappler used to have awesome 4 player matches we'd even filled all the CAW slots with our own federation, mostly midgets and huge fat guys.

Heck, on No Mercy after my roommates and I in college filled all the CAW slots with ourselves and friends, we started editing the real wrestler's roster and replacing them with people we knew. You could change everything, name, outfit, entrance music other than the move set. It was cool because when you edited the WWF roster then that wrestler's appearance was changed in the intro of the game too. I still have that copy of the game and I think the only wrestlers left are Andre the Giant and a version of Mick Foley.

[RCBH928]

I loved this style of grappler used to have awesome 4 player matches we'd even filled all the CAW slots with our own federation, mostly midgets and huge fat guys.

Heck, on No Mercy after my roommates and I in college filled all the CAW slots with ourselves and friends, we started editing the real wrestler's roster and replacing them with people we knew. You could change everything, name, outfit, entrance music other than the move set. It was cool because when you edited the WWF roster then that wrestler's appearance was changed in the intro of the game too. I still have that copy of the game and I think the only wrestlers left are Andre the Giant and a version of Mick Foley.

so how do you get the original roster back?

[neilencio]

Even disregarding the graphics and the CAW system, No Mercy was really ahead of its time. I remember liking the fact that moves did not just give generic damage, but injured specific areas of the body (like if you kept using a neckbreaker, the opponent would eventually hunch over while holding his neck or if you kept using a feet damaging move, he'll start to limp and walk slower).

The weight class system is also worth noting. There's a real sense of difference between the wrestlers outside of their movesets. You won't see the Big Show running as fast as Dean Malenko and you won't see a little runt like Crash Holly bench pressing Andre the Giant over his head.

so how do you get the original roster back?

I don't remember if there's an instant method that I don't know of, but while editing wrestlers you can just reset them to Default.

[the King]

so how do you get the original roster back?

I don't know. I'm sure there is some way to set everything back to default, but that's the last thing I want to do. Heck, if anything Andre the Giant might have to be edited into one of my kids.

[mas]

The thing about those games is the fact that you could do all kinds of moves never seen on a video game before at the time. Yeah the graphics weren't realistsic and peoples faces were pasted on the bodies but look at the roster for wcw/nwo revenge. Some of the BIGGEST names of the wrestling industry are on that game. Hogan,sting,bret hart, savage,hall,nash,mr.perfect,piper,british bulldog, i mean I can go on but the other thing that I also loved was The amount of tag teams that was on there and no other game has a roster like this:: Hart foundation,mega powers,barbarian and meng,the outsiders, harlem heat, stiener brothers,luger and sting,raven and saturn, right now i cant think of others but this game is really what you call legends of wrestling