First SF4, now Tekken is iPhone-bound

[17DaysOlderThanNES]

Blahhhhh that's all you are saying now.
You like Iphone that's fine but don't force your opinion on others to just because you do.
Street Fighter IV on touch screen NO THANK YOU

Chief, read the thread title. If people can groan about the iPhone getting ports, I can praise and defend it, period. I like the iPhone, thus I want other people to see what I see because more iPhone owners=more developers and better games, not to mention more people to play online with. Don't be a slave to Sony and Nintendo's highway robbery prices for mediocre games.

A clip on game controller/case is long overdue, but that doesn't mean you need it to play ALL of the games. As I've already said, flying games, racing games, and games built around the iPhone all work wonderfully. Putting your thumb on a gas pedal rather than pushing a button doesn't detract from gameplay in the least.

The bottom line is that the iPhone is...a phone. I keep my iPhone with me all the time, I have no reason to keep a PSP with me all the time nor would I have anywhere to put it if I wanted to.

@Niode: you don't just charge your battery every night? Lithium Ion batteries don't suffer from the memory effect like older batteries (almost everything is Lithium Ion nowadays), there's really no reason to not charge your phone. I always charge overnight just so I have a charge if I have a heavy use day ahead of me. Additionally, there are cases that have an additional battery that piggybacks the plug on the bottom if you REALLY need extra charge: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.29369

Additionally, it never hurts to keep a charge cable around at work/school/car/computer/bedroom/etc.: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.24296

They're "fake", but who cares? they work. Sure beats $30 a cable.

[msimplay]

Blahhhhh that's all you are saying now.
You like Iphone that's fine but don't force your opinion on others to just because you do.
Street Fighter IV on touch screen NO THANK YOU

Chief, read the thread title. If people can groan about the iPhone getting ports, I can praise and defend it, period. I like the iPhone, thus I want other people to see what I see because more iPhone owners=more developers and better games, not to mention more people to play online with. Don't be a slave to Sony and Nintendo's highway robbery prices for mediocre games.

A clip on game controller/case is long overdue, but that doesn't mean you need it to play ALL of the games. As I've already said, flying games, racing games, and games built around the iPhone all work wonderfully. Putting your thumb on a gas pedal rather than pushing a button doesn't detract from gameplay in the least.

The bottom line is that the iPhone is...a phone. I keep my iPhone with me all the time, I have no reason to keep a PSP with me all the time nor would I have anywhere to put it if I wanted to.

@Niode: you don't just charge your battery every night? Lithium Ion batteries don't suffer from the memory effect like older batteries (almost everything is Lithium Ion nowadays), there's really no reason to not charge your phone. I always charge overnight just so I have a charge if I have a heavy use day ahead of me. Additionally, there are cases that have an additional battery that piggybacks the plug on the bottom if you REALLY need extra charge: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.29369

Additionally, it never hurts to keep a charge cable around at work/school/car/computer/bedroom/etc.: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.24296

They're "fake", but who cares? they work. Sure beats $30 a cable.

The Pope of the church of Apple has spoken

[17DaysOlderThanNES]

Blahhhhh that's all you are saying now.
You like Iphone that's fine but don't force your opinion on others to just because you do.
Street Fighter IV on touch screen NO THANK YOU

Chief, read the thread title. If people can groan about the iPhone getting ports, I can praise and defend it, period. I like the iPhone, thus I want other people to see what I see because more iPhone owners=more developers and better games, not to mention more people to play online with. Don't be a slave to Sony and Nintendo's highway robbery prices for mediocre games.

A clip on game controller/case is long overdue, but that doesn't mean you need it to play ALL of the games. As I've already said, flying games, racing games, and games built around the iPhone all work wonderfully. Putting your thumb on a gas pedal rather than pushing a button doesn't detract from gameplay in the least.

The bottom line is that the iPhone is...a phone. I keep my iPhone with me all the time, I have no reason to keep a PSP with me all the time nor would I have anywhere to put it if I wanted to.

@Niode: you don't just charge your battery every night? Lithium Ion batteries don't suffer from the memory effect like older batteries (almost everything is Lithium Ion nowadays), there's really no reason to not charge your phone. I always charge overnight just so I have a charge if I have a heavy use day ahead of me. Additionally, there are cases that have an additional battery that piggybacks the plug on the bottom if you REALLY need extra charge: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.29369

Additionally, it never hurts to keep a charge cable around at work/school/car/computer/bedroom/etc.: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.24296

They're "fake", but who cares? they work. Sure beats $30 a cable.

The Pope of the church of Apple has spoken

"you rang?"

[Niode]

@Niode: you don't just charge your battery every night? Lithium Ion batteries don't suffer from the memory effect like older batteries (almost everything is Lithium Ion nowadays), there's really no reason to not charge your phone. I always charge overnight just so I have a charge if I have a heavy use day ahead of me. Additionally, there are cases that have an additional battery that piggybacks the plug on the bottom if you REALLY need extra charge: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.29369

I charge it when it needs it. The problem isn't the charging. It's the fact that battery life is abysmal. If I were to play a game for a couple of hours the battery would be dead. That's just not acceptable on a gaming device. It's barely acceptable on a phone, it means I won't play games because it kills the battery especially if I know I'm going to be away from a method of charging it for a while. I have a charge cable in my car for this exact event. It happens more often than I'd like it to.

[17DaysOlderThanNES]

@Niode: you don't just charge your battery every night? Lithium Ion batteries don't suffer from the memory effect like older batteries (almost everything is Lithium Ion nowadays), there's really no reason to not charge your phone. I always charge overnight just so I have a charge if I have a heavy use day ahead of me. Additionally, there are cases that have an additional battery that piggybacks the plug on the bottom if you REALLY need extra charge: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.29369

I charge it when it needs it. The problem isn't the charging. It's the fact that battery life is abysmal. If I were to play a game for a couple of hours the battery would be dead. That's just not acceptable on a gaming device. It's barely acceptable on a phone, it means I won't play games because it kills the battery especially if I know I'm going to be away from a method of charging it for a while. I have a charge cable in my car for this exact event. It happens more often than I'd like it to.

aaaaand that's what the charge case is for. There are also batteries that just plug into the bottom and you can just plug it into the phone and put it in your bag or on a desk or whatever and let it charge away. I agree, the battery life could be better, but it's never been bad enough to cause a problem for me. Also, I only play video games for an hour or two at a time, so that has something to do with it as well, I don't know how people have 9 hours to blow in a row on video games.

[Niode]

Ugh that charge case thing is ugly. Besides, what is that 2200mah battery going to give me, another couple of hours, max? Face it, the iPhone isn't designed for gaming. Anything openGL just kills battery life, hell even bejewelled kills the battery stone dead within a couple of hours.

[crux]

Are you actually trying to defend the battery life of the iPhone by: A) Claiming that an extra battery could be purchased and carried around to charge it, and; B) Insulting those that choose to play games more than yourself? Is this honestly your argument?

I've had an iPod Touch for over a year now, primarily because it was the largest storage for a flash memory player at the time and apps being the second draw. I also own a DS and a G1 phone (got the G1 and iPod Touch as a gift at the same time, in fact). All three of them have advantages over the others. I have to get this out of the way before all else: the claim that the iPhone is 'greater than' both the DS and PSP is absolutely laughable. I would have ignored the comment if the claim were that iPhone is as viable of a game platform as DS or PSP. I wouldn't have even agreed with such a comment, but I would have ignored it. But to claim that it's better? To what end? A Sega-16 post? One that literally cites All-in-1 Gamebox?

Fine, here are two links of recommendations that another user (AmishSamurai) posted in another thread:
http://vsrecommendedgames.wikia.com/wiki/Nintendo_DS
http://vsrecommendedgames.wikia.com/wiki/PSP

By far my primary complaint of iPhone/Touch as a game system (irrespective of its position as a game platform) is the lack of buttons. Naturally games fair better when designed for the iPhone, but that still doesn't excuse the problem. I'm a huge shoot-'em-up fan - I own shmups for over twenty different systems, including the Touch. And you know what? Touch controls or an accelerometer does not make for an acceptable control system for a shmup - even ones designed for the iPhone, like iFighter. And for adapted games, the controls sometimes makes them nearly unplayable, like with Super Monkey Ball.

Some games work brilliantly on the system, like the aforementioned Plants Vs. Zombies. It's not exaggeration to say that the game plays better on the iPhone than on the PC, because of the multi-touch interface. But the claim that an onscreen joystick is equivalent (or even better) to real analogue controls is nothing short of an incredible exaggeration. Even calling it an exaggeration masks my true feelings on the matter. I have about twenty apps and not a single one has a touch joystick that's actually worth the programming that designed it. I think touch controls - especially multi-touch controls - should be used in every single portable system from hereon in. Alongside buttons. Buttons can't be replaced with hypothetical buttons.

And though this isn't a topic about phones, this also extends itself to keyboards. Typing on a physical keyboard is faster and anyone that says anything to the contrary is compensating for something.

[pepharytheworm]

Whats with all this iphone hate and love? I have not once played an iPhone so I can't comment on the controls, but I can say if Tekken is like SF4 on the iPhone you will be blocking the some of the game with your hands. Not the whole thing but enough to make me question why is there even gameplay images where your fake control pad is. Yeah its just mostly their legs when they are to the side but thats the one thing I really hate about touch device video games.

[GSZX1337]

Are you actually trying to defend the battery life of the iPhone by: A) Claiming that an extra battery could be purchased and carried around to charge it, and; B) Insulting those that choose to play games more than yourself? Is this honestly your argument?

Have you read his other posts in this thread?
Hiyoooo!

[msimplay]

Some games work brilliantly on the system, like the aforementioned Plants Vs. Zombies. It's not exaggeration to say that the game plays better on the iPhone than on the PC, because of the multi-touch interface. But the claim that an onscreen joystick is equivalent (or even better) to real analogue controls is nothing short of an incredible exaggeration. Even calling it an exaggeration masks my true feelings on the matter. I have about twenty apps and not a single one has a touch joystick that's actually worth the programming that designed it. I think touch controls - especially multi-touch controls - should be used in every single portable system from hereon in. Alongside buttons. Buttons can't be replaced with hypothetical buttons.

And though this isn't a topic about phones, this also extends itself to keyboards. Typing on a physical keyboard is faster and anyone that says anything to the contrary is compensating for something.

I agree